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SurfaceOM removal is confusing #6614

Open hut104 opened 3 years ago

hut104 commented 3 years ago

People find the current method for removing residues from the soil surface to be very confusing. To remove residues, one has to till a fraction of the residues to a zero depth. We should have a more explicit method for removing a fraction of the soil surface residues. This could then be used for burning or removal treatments.

mppalves commented 1 year ago

Hi @hut104 Thanks for the comment, I support your statement.

I'm very new to APSIM and I need some help understanding how I can implement different types of tillage/residue management. Would have some material you could share, or examples of how this could be done?

Thanks!

soilmodel12 commented 1 year ago

Agreed this is very confusing! @hut104 could this be explained in more detail?

soilmodel12 commented 1 year ago

@mppalves did you figure this out?

mppalves commented 1 year ago

Hi @soilmodel12, not yet...

JJguri commented 10 months ago

Hi @hut104, totally agree with you. I am facing the same issue particularly trying to mix different tillage (conventional vs zero tillage) and residue removal treatments (with different percentage of stover removal) in Classic. I imagine the tillage module is the same between Classic and NG. Below a more detail explanation:

Below you can see a simulation with different treatments including wheat (W) and maize (M) monocultures with conventional tillage (CT) and zero tillage or no-till (ZT) and residue removals (R000, no residue removal; R100, 100% residue removal). Residue indicates all stover after grain harvest. I am using the tillage module to do both, the tillage event 3 weeks before sowing and the residue removal after harvest with the user_defined function (.apsim and .met files attached). I found that APSIM is not able to differentiate between CT and ZT (red and orange lines, they overlap) on changes in organic carbon (%) when the treatment includes 100% residue removal due to the tillage event does not affects FOM (due to surface_om after harvest = 0). On the other hand, I am having model under-estimations for the ZT treatment with no residue removal (green line; actual observed values are at least 0.5% higher in oc). Could you please provide your opinion about possible fixes in the model to catch the actual management in these trials?

I have a couple of doubts:

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