Open sarahcleary opened 3 years ago
Drafting a paper on the best management/governance of a model? Promotion and training for next gen?
@APSIMInitiative/reference-panel - any further ideas, agenda items?
@uqghamme
Development plan
How do we optimise engagement/collaboration/communication on design of new elements BEFORE they are implemented
@hut104 - any suggestions for agenda items for the upcoming AI RP meeting (17/2)?
Any further input? any other topics for discussion?
@jwhish
Please find attached a draft agenda for your input.
As you are aware, this is our first RP meeting with a longer format, replacing the monthly 2 hour meetings. If there are any additional topics you wish discussed, please let me know. Please ensure you have reviewed GitHub recently and provide any feedback on relevant issues.
Time | Topic | Lead |
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8:50 | Welcome | Jason Brider @jbrider |
9:00 | How do we optimise engagement/collaboration/communication on design of new elements BEFORE they are implemented:
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Graeme Hammer @uqghamme |
10:00 | Development Plan
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Jason Brider @jbrider |
10:30 | Drafting a paper on the best management/governance of a model | Keith Pembleton @Keith-Pembleton |
11:00 | Training
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Training ‘sub-committee’ @kchenu @Keith-Pembleton @JulianneLilley @sno036 @peter-devoil |
11:30 | Discussion on APSIM Special Section / Book | Karine Chenu @kchenu |
12:00 | Close |
We had booked from 8-2, but I don’t think we need all of that time – but can call for additional topics. As discussed, this meeting is to bring together people beyond the @APSIMInitiative/reference-panel, so please invite others you feel can contribute to these discussions.
I note there are a few workshops which have been discussed but never actioned. There is the possibility of utilising the 12-2pm window for such a discussion. If anyone would like to lead one of these, please let me know.
@erik-van-oosterom; @uqschap7
@yashvirchauhan; @MarkLieffering; @LouisAK; @peter-devoil; @sarahcleary; @Keith-Pembleton; @kchenu; @jbrider; @sno036; @HamishBrownPFR; @JulianneLilley; @kchenu; @sarchontoulis; @hol353 @erik-van-oosterom; @hut104; @uqschap7; @uqghamme;
Apologies: @EnliWang
Welcome from @jbrider to first meeting of the year. Noting this is the first meeting with the new longer format
@uqghamme worked through the attached presentation RP meeting discussion Feb21.pptx
Split into 4 breakout rooms for 15 minutes and asked to consider the following questions
Key points from Group 1:
Key points from Group 2:
Key points from Group 3:
Key points from Group 4:
Group Discussion
Further discussion on "chief scientist concept"
Further discussion on GitHub
ACTION: Develop a step by step document and related training video on how to use GitHub for AI purposes.
Noted that GitHub has its use - but does not replace the whiteboard discussions.
Autodoc enhancement - Neil, Hamish, Sotirios, Dean -- worked well; acheived goals
Stock Sprint - 3 days – Nev, Val, Dean, Mark – resulting Stock now in release -- Noted that Reference Panel preapproval greatly assisted to get Stock into release -- Made it possible to plan what to do in the sprint -- Utilised projects feature in GitHub
Role of Sprints – work well; but need to ensure people are aware these are happening in case they wish to be involved or wish to be involved in pre-planning.
Improved Soil Water balance – it's an educational exercise at present, but might require further discussion/input if promising
@jbrider to add issues to the Dev plan - follow up @sme016 re:eucalyptus development and hourly temp data development
Looking outside how other models do it? Is what we doing best practice??
Benefit as part of a paper?
Increase prestige of APSIM, beyond cropping/farming systems
Broaden to open source projects in general – not just modelling
Look at how does “R” work?
Scan the journal papers
ACTION:
@Keith-Pembleton to lead
@sno036 to provide initial comment
Review to see if publishable. Review other models, and/or other platforms Value for the AI as well – guide how we improve our processes. Potential to conduct a workshop at ModSIM conference on Agri sytems processes as part of the
@Keith-Pembleton summarised the sub-committee meeting AI wants to push people along the pipeline – so can contribute to APSIM Training plan for 2021 seeks to do this.
Open call for additional videos. Welcome videos which demonstrate applications of research (such as UQ crop physiology lectures) Simulations will be developed
Noted that there would be synergies between academic teams. Discussed potential of a Community of practice for the education setting Offer AI support if requested.
Karine led discussion on reviewing options around special section / book
Difficulties include:
• Cost money • No. of Quality papers • Open invite - too many invitations; poor quality?
Possible - choose theme and by invitation only Possible - In silico - should be indexed next year
• Need 3 guest editors for a special edition • Possible to 'match' researchers for a review paper
To propose a special edition, require the following
@kchenu to contact Matt Harrison as potential lead Guest editior. If positive, ask Matt to contact David etc..
If theme is right – Val happy to do a pre assessment for Agricultural Systems .
Include response to Graeme’s challenges as agenda item.
@Keith-Pembleton - any update on "Drafting a paper on the best management/governance of a model"?
Shall I open a separate issue on this?
Include as an agenda item for the next meeting?
The first AI RP meeting is planned for 17/2. If you have agenda items for this meeting, can you please add them (as you think of them) to this issue? thanks.