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BFA recruit a friend rewards still learneable in tww if you recruit a person during bfa #1798

Open milotic opened 1 month ago

milotic commented 1 month ago

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Describe the bug all bfa recruit a friend stuff is marked removed from the game but all rewards are able to learn if you recruit a friend in BFA. Blizz call in the IU "legacy recruits"

To Reproduce Steps to reproduce the behavior:

  1. have a account with recruit a friend of BFA unlocked
  2. the IU say what you still can learning the rewards

Expected behavior like summonable boss of wow classic, if the person met the requisites can learn the items

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Exodius commented 1 month ago

To be quite honest, I don't see the problem here. It's a technicality. Current RAF window looks like this: image

As of Shadowlands, there are half the rewards than there were available. Month Reward
1st Volatile Self-Driving Toolbox (Pet)
2nd Shredderizing Glove (Fist Weapon Transmog)
3rd Sappy Buddy (Cloak Transmog
4th 30 Day Game Time
5th S.C.A.N.N.E.R. Mk3 (Head piece Transmog
6th Rocket Shredder 9001 (Mount)
After that 30 Day Game Time every 3 months

Although, yes, rewards that you are mentioning are technically available, they are only available to people who recruited friends prior to Shadowlands release. Those can't be obtained through any other means. Hence: Unobtainable or Removed.

If anyone was to Recruit-a-Friend right now, he would would get the rewards from the table.

milotic commented 1 month ago

@Exodius in ATT already exist two category of items in the same situation, in default the items are hidden but if you active the check in the options the list of items appear.

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1- cata removed quest but still sumonable boss if you complete the quest before cata:

2- ordos loot because require original legendary cloack of pandaria or remix cloak

3- RAF BFA

actually only the RFA rewards show removed from the game but a account with the requisites can earn the items today

Exodius commented 1 month ago

This may be the issue of the language barrier. I understand what you are trying to say but you may not understand my point. Or am I failing to make my point? I don't know.

As I said, technicalities. Timeline/Patch releases/Expansion releases. The main point being, You would have had to have been there at that specific point/time in order to have access to something.

  1. In regards to Cataclysm, same thing as I wrote before. The boss can be summoned only if you completed the quest and/or you have items required for its summon. Those criteria were obtained while it was available (pre-Cataclysm). That same quest is not available anymore, or you can't get the items anymore.

A dumb counter-example (can't think of a better one. It's late and I am tired) can be made for Anzu, as an example. TBC Dungeon Boss that could be summoned only by Druids (If I am not mistaken, a quest chain was involved so that Druids could summon it). As of Cataclysm Patch 4.0.1, that criteria was removed and Anzu was made a permanent Boss. However, if you play TBC Classic or WotLK Classic, it is still not available unless you have a Druid in a group to summon the boss.

  1. Ordos situation, same thing. Available only to those that obtained the Cloak(s) during MoP. New players can't obtain the cloak and without it, can't get to him. The option from the screenshot is there so that the people that did obtain the cloak, and can access, and loot him him, can toggle the option and see his loot. I was one of those people prior to Remix. I completed 2 out of 5 chapters, I didn't have the cloak. But as of Remix I have the Cloak Toys and I can kill him now. image Someone new, who has never played WoW before (brand new account), can't access Ordos because he does not meet the criteria.

  2. You have BFA RaF rewards available only because "you have been there at the specific point" that you recruited a friend before Shadowlands "revamp" of RaF. None of us that can get those items/mounts/pets anymore.

But, I digress...

I think that the most viable solution is to add the "Ordos type" red message.

"Only available to players that have 'Recruited-A-Friend' prior to release of Shadowlands expansion".

At least for now... Swift Zhevra, X-53 Rocket, Cindermane (retired RaF mounts) were added to the Trading Post at one point. Maybe some of these rewards be added there as well at some point in the future.

milotic commented 1 month ago

yes this is my point the correct message should be "Only available to players that have 'Recruited-A-Friend' prior to release of Shadowlands expansion". and thanks i understand your point too, my english sometimes is bad because in 2016 i lost my memory and still relearning basic things in all aspects of the life