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Special-Use Internet Names Problem Statement
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Clarify importance of the "root of the Domain Namespace" #22

Closed rdroms closed 7 years ago

rdroms commented 7 years ago

From Suzanne Woolf https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg19170.html

Problems associated with Special-Use Domain Names

  1. The text "There are several different types of names in the root of the Domain Namespace" assumes the root is important-- that it's the mathematical root of a tree-- without quite saying so. Citing RFC 7719, sec. 2 is probably helpful here.
rdroms commented 7 years ago

Hm. On reflection, it seems like this first bullet in the Problems section is more correctly an observation or a fact that then leads to specific problems. Perhaps this text could be moved up near the discussion of Special-Use Domain Names, as an outcome of the fact of SUDNs and text that helps understand some of the specific problems in section 2.

Abhayakara commented 7 years ago

You're right, this is background information. It's also not entirely correct, in the sense that it lets out the possibility of special-use names that are both "reserved by the IETF" and "part of the public root zone." And I don't like the last bullet—if we know of some other such thing, we should enumerate it, but I don't think we do, and the text implies that we've left out something we know, when we haven't.

rdroms commented 7 years ago

Updated bullet list:

  *  Reserved by the IETF for technical purposes

  *  Assigned by ICANN to the Global DNS root; some names reserved
     by the IETF for technical purposes may appear in the Global DNS
     root for reasons pertaining to the operation of the DNS

  *  ICANN Reserved Names; names that may not be applied for as TLDs
     (see [SDO-ICANN-DAG]Section 2.2.1.2.1, Reserved Names )

  *  Commandeered for use by other organizations

  *  Names that are unused and are available for assignment to one
     of the previous categories
Abhayakara commented 7 years ago

lgtm

rdroms commented 7 years ago

Based on the default font in my browser, I interpreted the first character of "lgtm" as 0x49, which left me scratching my head. Makes more sense when I interpret it as 0x6C.

I suggest we move this list up between the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of the Introduction, perhaps leading with a sentence like:

Based on current ICANN and IETF practice, including RFC 6761, there are several different types of names in the root of the Domain Namespace:

Abhayakara commented 7 years ago

wfm

(hopefully that's less ambiguous... :)

wkumari commented 7 years ago

WFM

wkumari commented 7 years ago

Discussed with Ralph, changing bullet #2 to something like: ICANN Reserved Names; names that may not be applied for as TLDs (see [SDO-ICANN-DAG]Section 2.2.1.2.1, Reserved Names, Section 2.2.1.4.1 Treatment of Country or Territory Names, et all )

rdroms commented 7 years ago

OLD (was in section 3):

o There are several different types of names in the root of the Domain Namespace:

  *  Reserved by the IETF for technical purposes

  *  Assigned by ICANN to the public DNS root

  *  ICANN Reserved Names; names that may not be applied for as a
     TLD (see [SDO-ICANN-DAG]Section 2.2.1.2.1, Reserved Names )

  *  Commandeered for use by other organizations

  *  Not a member of any other category

NEW (now in section 1, 3rd para):

Based on current ICANN and IETF practice, including RFC 6761, there are several different types of names in the root of the Domain Namespace:

o Reserved by the IETF for technical purposes

o Assigned by ICANN to the public DNS root; some names reserved by the IETF for technical purposes may appear in the Global DNS root for reasons pertaining to the operation of the DNS

o ICANN Reserved Names; names that may not be applied for as TLDs (see [SDO-ICANN-DAG], Section 2.2.1.2.1, Reserved Names, Section 2.2.1.4.1, Treatment of Country or Territory Names, et al.)

o Commandeered for use by other organizations

o Names that are unused and are available for assignment to one of the previous categories