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Updated README to reflect changes to the ARG procedures #46

Closed Richard-Wai closed 5 months ago

Richard-Wai commented 1 year ago

Comprehensive re-write of README to reflect changes to the ARG procedures approved by the ARG on Mar 30, 2023.

Specifically this loses the path to new AI creation from Github tickets, including a more streamlined process for Language Study Group creation.

Jeff-Cousins commented 1 year ago

The ARG considers these enhancements or errors for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. ➢ I never noticed this sentence before, but it implies we are incorporating "errors" into future versions of the Ada standard. I think it would be better to say something like: ➢ The ARG considers proposals that address these identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. I think I’d prefer something like: The ARG considers these enhancements or corrections of errors for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

Jeff

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ARG-Editor commented 1 year ago

The ARG considers these enhancements or errors for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. ➢ I never noticed this sentence before, but it implies we are incorporating "errors" into future versions of the Ada standard. I think it would be better to say something like: ➢ The ARG considers proposals that address these identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. I think I’d prefer something like: The ARG considers these enhancements or corrections of errors for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

I agree with Jeff. I thought Tucker was adding an additional sentence, rather than a replacement, since it didn't make sense to be as that. Certainly not all enhancements come from "shortcomings"; some are natural extensions and a few (like child packages were back in Ada 95) building on strengths (I don't think there was any real shortcoming with Ada 83 packages; the notion that it could be even better seems to have mainly been in the design team). And there's a few that don't have much of a justification at all. :-)

Perhaps a merge would be even better:

The ARG considers these enhancements or identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

                   Randy.
sttaft commented 1 year ago

Perhaps a merge would be even better:

The ARG considers these enhancements or identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

This seems to suffer from the original problem, where it sounds like we will be incorporating "identified shortcomings" into the standard.

ARG-Editor commented 1 year ago

I guess we already did that (incorporated "identified shortcomings" into the Standard). :-)

I suppose we'd need to add "fixes for" to the sentence: The ARG considers these enhancements or fixes for identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard.

But admittedly, that makes it a less appealing option.


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Perhaps a merge would be even better:

The ARG considers these enhancements or identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

This seems to suffer from the original problem, where it sounds like we will be incorporating "identified shortcomings" into the standard.

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Richard-Wai commented 11 months ago

The ARG considers these enhancements or errors for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. ➢ I never noticed this sentence before, but it implies we are incorporating "errors" into future versions of the Ada standard. I think it would be better to say something like: ➢ The ARG considers proposals that address these identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. I think I’d prefer something like: The ARG considers these enhancements or corrections of errors for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

I agree with Jeff. I thought Tucker was adding an additional sentence, rather than a replacement, since it didn't make sense to be as that. Certainly not all enhancements come from "shortcomings"; some are natural extensions and a few (like child packages were back in Ada 95) building on strengths (I don't think there was any real shortcoming with Ada 83 packages; the notion that it could be even better seems to have mainly been in the design team). And there's a few that don't have much of a justification at all. :-)

Perhaps a merge would be even better:

The ARG considers these enhancements or identified shortcomings for incorporation into future versions of the Ada standard. So as to keep some distinction between Amendments and Binding Interpretations.

                   Randy.

I'm going to go with Jeff's suggestion for now, until we can come up with something better.. I certainly have not been able to!

ARG-Editor commented 5 months ago

These changes all looked fine. I didn't verify that you made all of the changes needed, only that the changes looked correct. (And I don't see any Approve button anywhere.)