Winget Apps Do Not Display Latest Version Number in UCheck 5.4.0.0-BETA1

[ljmacri]

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• [X] I use a modern operating system (Windows 7 with SP1 or newer)
• [X] I use the latest version of UCheck available (stable or beta version)
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• [X] I am reporting an issue for UCheck BETA

What happened?

I have a Win 10 Pro v22H2 laptop and am running the latest UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA (released 05-Apr-2024) from a removable USB stick. This BETA version of UCheck has added support for winget.

When I view the list of installed programs on the Installed tab of UCheck apps now classified as type "Winget" display the word "winget" in the Latest column in instead of the latest available version (see attached image).

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4170 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24020.7-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA1

ucheck-report

The attached .txt files are my latest UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA scan and debug logs for today's 06-Apr-2024 scan.

UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA1 Scan Log 06 Apr 2025.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA1 Debug Log 06 Apr 2025.txt

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[ljmacri]

Further to my original post, if I run the command winget upgrade in an elevated command prompt to list the programs installed on my computer that are supported by winget and require an update it shows that a v3.7.2204.15001 update is available for my current Windows PC Health Check v3.6.2204.08001 app ...

... but UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA1 reports the latest available version is "winget".

I have attached new UCheck scan and debug logs since Windows PC Health Check was excluded at History & Settings | Exclusions in my previous UCheck scans.

UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA1 2nd Scan Log 06 Apr 2025.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA1 2nd Debug Log 06 Apr 2025.txt

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4170 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24020.7-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA1

[Tigzy]

This is a parsing issue. Could you run this command and send me the file ? winget.exe list --disable-interactivity >> out.txt

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy

The attached out.txt file is the requested output from the winget.exe list command:

out.txt

[Tigzy]

Ok thanks, we'll fix that. The problem in that output is that the "Available" columns is missing. Do you know if it's because everything is up-to-date ?

[Tigzy]

Bug referenced here: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/issues/2396 It looks like this happens when no update is available from the list. In our case, we'll consider parsing cannot be done and bail.

[ljmacri]

Bug referenced here: microsoft/winget-cli#2396 It looks like this happens when no update is available from the list. In our case, we'll consider parsing cannot be done and bail.

Hi @Tigzy

The first image I inserted in my 06-Apr-2024 post <above> shows the command winget upgrade currently finds 4 available updates for my installed programs. Note that this command dos not actually install available updates - you would need to run the command winget upgrade --all to apply all available updates.

Note that the winget detection for a Malwarerytes v4.6.12.399 update is an erroneous detection - this is the version number of the latest MBSetup.exe installer, not the latest Malwarbytes v4.6.12.323 program. See my 25-Mar-2024 post in 1PW's _What's the conventional version number of the mb4offline installer? for more information.

I'm personally not a big fan of adding winget detections to UCheck. I do not use UCheck to install or update "Compatible" (or "Winget") apps, so my main concern is that UCheck quickly and correctly identify available updates. Changing some "Community" apps to "Winget" apps just makes the scan slower, adds more colour coding in the UCheck interface, and makes the GUI more cluttered and confusing than it already is.

[Tigzy]

FYI, Winget can be disabled in Scan settings.

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy

I updated to the latest UCheck v5.4.0..0-BETA2 (released 08-Apr-2024) and now all the apps previously classified as type "Winget" in v5.4.0.0-BETA1 (e.g., Windows PC Health Check, Belarc Advisor, Intel Driver & SupportAssistant, etc. - see my image <above>) have reverted back to "Community"apps.

That includes the outdated Windows PC Health Check app I mentioned in my 06-Apr-2024 post <above>.

I checked my setting at History & Settings | Scan Settings and confirmed that the Winget option is enabled.

Here are my latest scan and debug logs.

UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA2 Scan Log 08 Apr 2023.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA2 Debug Log 08 Apr 2023.txt

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4170 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24020.7-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA2

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy

I don't know if this helps, but per your 09-Apr-2024 post # 1441 in the Wilders Security topic UCheck - Update Your Software in 2 Clicks here's what I see in my Windows registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\winget.exe for my current Windows Package Manager Source (winget) v2024.408.2349.153 app.

I have not installed Marti Climet's WingetUI and I know nothing about "custom" versions of winget so I assume I have the "regular" version of winget that was installed from the Microsoft Store the first time I ran a winget command in a Command Prompt on my Win 10 machine.

Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4170 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24020.7-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA2

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy

I'm still using UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA2 and my scan today (13-Apr-2024) correctly parsed the Latest version for my Winget apps.

Here are my latest scan and debug logs.

UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA2 Scan Log 13 Apr 2023.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA2 Debug Log 13 Apr 2023.txt

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4291 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24030.9-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA2

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy

... and as of today (14-Apr-2024) all the apps that were classified yesterday as type "Winget" in v5.4.0.0-BETA2 (e.g., Windows PC Health Check, Belarc Advisor, Intel Driver & SupportAssistant, etc. - see my 13-Apr-2024 post <above>) have once again reverted back to "Community"apps.

Due to the erratic behaviour of UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA2, I'm going to stop posting status updates in this bug report until I hear back from you that you've made a change that you'd like me to test or until you release a new BETA.

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4291 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24030.9-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA2

[Tigzy]

thanks for the feedback. We'll see but I believe this is fixed in the next BETA.

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy

I have now updated to the latest UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA3 (released 15-Apr-2024) that I am running from a removable USB stick.

"Winget" apps are parsing correctly on the Updates tab and UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA3 is currently recommending updates for three applications supported by winget [Windows PC Health Check, Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) and Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x86)] ...

... which are the same three apps that the command winget upgrade also detects as outdated.

However, several other apps that are supported by winget that are up-to-date and were previously identified as "Winget" apps in UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA1 (e.g., Belarc Advisor, Intel Driver & Support Assistant, etc. - see my original image <above>) are now classified as "Community" apps.

I am not sure if this is a bug or expected behavior. Should users expect that that apps supported by winget like Belarc Advisor and Intel Driver & Support Assistant will be classified as "Community" apps if they are up-to-date and then change to a"Winget" app if an update is available?

Here are my latest scan and debug logs plus output from the command winget list.

UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA3 Scan Log 15 Apr 2023.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA3 Debug Log 15 Apr 2023.txt wingetlist 15 Apr 2024.txt

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4291 Firefox v124.0.2 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24030.9-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA3

[Tigzy]

Hi, this is the expected behavior because the "list" command isn't giving very good results. We had to use the "upgrade" command which unfortunately doesn't tell which ones are up-to-date.

[Tigzy]

Maybe we can run 2 rounds, upgrade first and then list...

[Tigzy]

Is this better in the latest BETA ?

[ljmacri]

BETA4 appears to have more problems than BETA3.

I am currently using UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA4 (rel. 19-Apr-2024) and all my installed apps previously classified as "Community" are now classified as "Winget". Are you certain that winget actually supports all these "Winget" apps (i.e., that winget can be used to install updates for all apps now classified as "Winget")?

According to the 14-Sep-2023 winget discussion at How to find out which installed Apps can be updated by winget and which cannot, when you run the winget list command and look at the ID column then Microsoft Store UWP apps (e.g., ID = Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_8wekyb3d8bbwe) and apps with a GUID in the ID column [e.g., ID = {00001220-0220-1033-84C8-B8D95FA3C8C3}] cannot be updated by winget. I know very little about winget so I cannot confirm if this is true or not.

The attached file named wingetlist_short_19_Apr_2024.txt was created by running the command winget list | sort >"%userprofile%\Desktop\wingetlist_short_19_Apr_2024.txt". That text file was then edited to remove all Microsoft Store UWP apps so that it only includes the ~ 50 programs installed on my system that are also listed at Control Panel | Programs | Programs and Features. About 20 of those 50 installed programs (e.g., Apple Software Updater, Dell Update for Windows Universal, Epson Print CD, etc.) listed in the edited text file that I have attached below have a GUID in the ID column, which suggests they cannot be updated by winget and should still be classified as "Community" apps rather than "Winget" apps.

wingetlist_short_19_Apr_2024.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA4 Scan Log 19 Apr 2023.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0-BETA4 Debug Log 19 Apr 2023.txt

Right now I cannot tell you if the BETA4 is working correctly because I do not have any apps classified as "Winget" with a GUID as their ID that currently require an update.

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Just FYI, the UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA4 Updates tab still correctly recommends updates for three applications supported by winget [Windows PC Health Check, Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x64) and Microsoft Visual C++ 2015-2022 Redistributable (x86)], which are the same three apps that the command winget upgrade also detects as outdated.

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4291 Firefox v125.0.1 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24030.9-1.1.24030.4 Malwarebytes Premium v4.6.12.323-1.0.2309 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA4

[Tigzy]

Thanks, actually the easiest is to lookup at the source. If it's empty then we should not take it into account. We'll fix that in the next version.

[ljmacri]

Thanks, actually the easiest is to lookup at the source. If it's empty then we should not take it into account. ...

Hi @Tigzy

Yes, that might be the best way to check.

I ran a winget list command today (winget list | sort >"%userprofile%\Desktop\wingetlist.txt") and then manually moved the applications where the Source column is empty down to the bottom of the list. The attached .txt file shows that all the Microsoft Store UWP apps (e.g., ID = Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_8wekyb3d8bbwe) or apps with a GUID in the ID column [e.g., ID = {00001220-0220-1033-84C8-B8D95FA3C8C3}] that supposedly cannot be updated by winget do not say "winget" in the Source column.

wingetlist 09 May 2024.txt

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4291 Firefox v125.0.3 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24030.9-1.1.24040.1 Malwarebytes Premium v5.1.3.110-1.0.1219 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0-BETA4

[ljmacri]

Hi @Tigzy:

I just realized that a stable version of UCheck v5.4.0.0 has been available for testing for almost week now.

I have now updated to the latest stable release of UCheck v5.4.0.0 (rel. 07-May-2024) that I am running from a removable USB stick. Here are my latest scan and debug logs:

UCheck v5_4_0_0 Scan Log 13 May 2024.txt UCheck v5_4_0_0 Debug Log 13 May 2024.txt

In general, the Installed tab looks much better and the stable build does a better job of distinguishing "Winget" versus "Community" apps.

However, here are three problems I noticed for UCheck v5.4.0.0 (stable):

1. I am once again seeing an erroneous detection for a Preview build MS Office 2019 C2R. UCheck is recommending an Insiders Preview Version 2405 / Build 17628.2006 (rel. 06-May-2024 - see the update history at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/update-history-current-channel-preview) when it should be recommending the latest stable Current Channel Version 2404 / Build 17531.20140 (rel. 07-May-2024 - see the release notes at https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/officeupdates/current-channel).

2. TreeSize Free Portable v4.7.3.550 was released 07-May-2024 (see the release notes at https://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/changes.shtml) but UCheck is still recommending the previous v4.7.2.526 (rel. 29-Feb-2024).

3. UCheck is incorrectly classifying Microsoft Edge Update as a "Winget" app and incorrectly detecting the "Latest" version as v124.0.2478.97 when it should be v1.3.187.37.

Here is what winget list and winget upgrade show (i.e., the Source column is blank for Microsoft Edge Update):

wingetlist 13 May 2024.txt

Here is what UCheck displays if History & Settings | Scan Settings | Winget is ENABLED (i..e, "Latest" available version 124.0.2478.97 is incorrect; I also don't know why the "Status" is not Outdated when 124.0.2478.97 is greater than1.3.187.37 ) ...

... and here is what UCheck displays if History & Settings | Scan Settings | Winget is DISABLED (i.e., Microsoft Edge Update is ignored by UCheck). See the 17-May-2024 Issue https://github.com/AdliceSoftware/UCheck/issues/50 for additional details.

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Dell Inspiron 15 5584 64-bit Win 10 Pro v22H2 build 19045.4291 Firefox v125.0.3 Microsoft Edge v124.0.2478.97 Microsoft Defender v4.18.24030.9-1.1.24040.1 Microsoft Office Home and Business 2019 Click-to-Run v2404 (Build 17531.20140) Malwarebytes Premium v 5.1.4.112-1.0.1233 Macrium Reflect Free v8.0.7783 QuickInstaller (Preview) v0.3.8859.20616 * UCheck v5.4.0.0 (stable)

[Tigzy]

I'm closing this defect as I think most of the problems were now resolved. Please re-open or create a new defect if you find more issues