[Help] I can’t load the update for the 3ds Pokemon games.

[baileymc69]

Describe your problem clearly: I have the most recent updates for Pokemon Ultra Moon, Omega Ruby and X, but every time i attempt to load them, I get a message saying it’s not a supported game update. These updates worked on version 4.2.1 but not on 4.3.0. The games load up in Citra but crash upon encountering a wild pokemon.

System (please fill in the following information):

• Operating System: Windows 11
• Randomizer Version: 4.3.0.

[tom-overton]

The changelog mentions that we now support only the latest updates:

As part of this change, only the latest game updates for the 3DS games (Ver 1.5 for X/Y, Ver 1.4 for OR/AS, and Ver 1.2 for the Gen 7 games) are allowed to be loaded into the randomizer. Unpatched 3DS games are still fully supported; this change only affects which game updates can be loaded.

However, from the filename alone, it looks like this is the latest update for Pokemon Ultra Moon, so it looks like it doesn't resemble what the randomizer expects. How did you dump this update?

[baileymc69]

it was a pre-dumped file that i downloaded from a megathread. i tried the update file on versions 4.2.1 and 4.2.0, and it worked successfully every time. i even tried different files, and those worked in both 4.2.x versions but not 4.3.0. i can send you the files i used to see what’s wrong with them. it’s just confusing as to why the update files will work with outdated versions and not the most recent one.

[tom-overton]

The reason why it doesn't work is exactly why I said; we're being more strict now about making sure that the update that is being loaded is what we expect. For some reason, your update does not look like what we "expect" a v1.2 update should look like. Rather than sharing the update with me, try loading the game update in this version of the randomizer:

PokeRandoZX-v4_3_0.zip

It will still error out, but it will tell you some information like so in the command prompt:

Game Update: Supplied unsupported version 5225

Copy-paste what pops up for you in the command prompt here.

[baileymc69]

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[tom-overton]

Did you use the version of the randomizer that I supplied in my previous post? There should be a line in there about the game update, but I'm not seeing it.

[baileymc69]

Yes, I did. I even deleted and redownloaded the randomizer file just to be sure.

[tom-overton]

Well, I was trying to avoid it, but why don't you upload the update file so I can take a look?

[baileymc69]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iQy1VMrAKSSbEpp5Bmz6GeUEvoLONrEc/view?usp=sharing

[tom-overton]

Well, huh, the actual contents of that CIA are entirely correct; the files are binary identical to the files we expect. The main problem is the version number; the internal version number (not the thing that gets shown in game, the thing that Nintendo's operating system cares about) is 2048 in what you sent me, whereas the randomizer expects 2080; this is why the CIA is being rejected. What's especially bizarre is that the filename for the CIA says it's 2080, but for some reason that's just not true.

I kind of expected that no valid update would be wrong about this, but apparently this is not true. While this is an improperly-dumped update, the next version of the randomizer will be less strict about this (see associated commit) because apparently, you can have a totally-valid update with a broken internal version number.

I'll close this issue for now since we've gotten to the bottom of it. For now, you have three options:

• Use v4.2.1 of the randomizer
• Get a properly-dumped update of Ultra Moon whose internal version number is 2080
• Play the game unpatched (make sure that the game on Citra/your 3DS is also unpatched, or else you'll run into that crashing issue you described earlier)

Once the next version of the randomizer comes out though, you will be able to use this CIA fine. Thank you very much for reporting this issue!