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Edit and remove comments #316

Closed albertvp closed 8 years ago

albertvp commented 8 years ago

Purpose

A logged user might want to edit or remove comments he published.

Problem

A user cannot remove or unpublish an active comment.

Solution

A given user that commented a proposal may edit it first to find a Remove button, maybe a confirmation step might be added.

josepjaume commented 8 years ago

Good idea! What do you think we should do when the comments have a reply? Maybe disable the functionality? Delete the replies as well?

albertvp commented 8 years ago

Well, I think the user should be free to do what they want with their comments, so if he deletes a comment all the replies should be deleted too.

xabier commented 8 years ago

Be carefull, this feature of removing all child comments can be exploited for attacks or abused. Take into account that this software is delicate, it implements democratic processes. Therefore we need to be carefull with attacks. The attack here consists on making a very favourable or very bad comment, capturing most attention or channeling a potentially interesting discussion and then removing the original comment and with it, the rest of contributions. This would be frustrating and could be used to intentaionally erase important comments below. We need to think of this software as the software of a democratic space. I think it is even questionable that you should have the right to unsay what you said, provided that you can remove your user and substitute the name of the comment author by a number.

On 03/03/16 23:26, Albert Vilà Picas wrote:

Well, I think the user should be free to do what they want with their comments, so if he deletes a comment all the replies should be deleted too.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/AjuntamentdeBarcelona/decidim.barcelona/issues/316#issuecomment-191994434.

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               xabier BARANDIARAN   |  http://www.barandiaran.net

"There is no need for fear or hope, but only to look for new weapons" DELEUZE

albertvp commented 8 years ago

I'm agree with your point of view. In fact, replies to comments has always been weird in websites, why we don't have replies of replies? For this reason I think isn't a good idea to have childs in a simple list of comments. However, I still think that a user should have the right to unsay or correct what he meant to say, or simply remove it, like proposals #315.

xabier commented 8 years ago

Nested comments are an important feature of deliberative democracy. If a user wants to correct what she said it is always possible to reply to your own comment and correct or improve what you said. This kind of platforms might end up substituting or complementing democratic deliberative chambers (city-councils, parliaments, etc.), in these chambers you cannot unsay what you have said. It is a historical record of collective, public, decision making. You might, and can, change your vote before the final decision is taken, but you should not be able to undo what you said. At most, to remove your user and hide your identity.

On 04/03/16 00:42, Albert Vilà Picas wrote:

I'm agree with your point of view. In fact, replies to comments has always been weird in websites, why we don't have replies of replies? For this reason I thinks isn't a good idea to have childs in a simple list of comments. However, I still thinks that a user should have the right to unsay or correct what he meant to say, or simply remove it, like proposals #315 https://github.com/AjuntamentdeBarcelona/decidim.barcelona/issues/315.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/AjuntamentdeBarcelona/decidim.barcelona/issues/316#issuecomment-192022970.

wget -O - http://sindominio.net/~xabier/xabier.gpg.asc | gpg --import

               xabier BARANDIARAN   |  http://www.barandiaran.net

"There is no need for fear or hope, but only to look for new weapons" DELEUZE

albertvp commented 8 years ago

Agree again. So let's make a collaborative graph.