Akaflieg-Freiburg / enroute

A free navigation app for VFR pilots
https://akaflieg-freiburg.github.io/enroute/
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OGN Flarm server - no augmentation and localhost 4353 is not persistent. #418

Open tue-kyndal opened 4 months ago

tue-kyndal commented 4 months ago

When connected to the OGN viewer app on my phone, I can connect to the data connection on localhost pot 4353.

But I don't get any augmentation of any flights/planes on the screen. Either with Vector or Raster map as background.

Is it not the hole point to see the gliders on the screen?

Also the connection does not seem to be very persistent. When playing with it, I had to enter the localhost pot 4353 on every app start. Since this is for the OWN viewer, could this not be a build-in listening port?

Thanks

kebekus commented 4 months ago

@tue-kyndal Thanks for your report. Please apologize for the slow answer; I am on a business trip. I have never seen or heard of the OGN viewer app. What is it, and where can I find it?

Best, Stefan.

tue-kyndal commented 4 months ago

OGN viewer is an android app to spot gliders. It also has a server other apps can connect to.

An example would be see you navigation. This app can also work as an flarm device if you want. You just enter your flarm device data and you go live on ogn and flight radar.

Create a device here http://ddb.glidernet.org/

http://wiki.glidernet.org/

https://live.glidernet.org/#c=45.00000,5.00000&z=10&s=1

I was under the impression that it was surported. It would work just like SafeSky App, except for gliders and for free.

Would be perfect for tow planes without flarm.

NB. I often tow close to the airport, and the destination is not calculated because I'm to close.

That is not good.. I always need a distance to the airport... So I know if older gliders can glide back.

Please concider to show destination info regardless of proximity.

tue-kyndal commented 4 months ago

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tue-kyndal commented 4 months ago

Here a few pictures to illustrate. Pasted above.

Here I show the virtual super cup oy-tue taking off from the train station... Was on the way home on a train when posting 🤣 And it only works when moving.

All done with a device created on http://ddb.glidernet.org/ The ogn viewer and see you navigator. Android Apps

Its the setup I plan to use because the super cup does not have a flarm.

With this setup, my mobile can act as one. Better than nothing!

Food for thought..

Basically I created a free Mobil phone based transponder and flarm device receiver, using existing app features. I can see the others. They can't see me though. Expect on the web.

Not fully sure how it will work in the air. Connection issues etc. At least I'm on flight radar.. For friends etc.

Will be keeping you posted.

I'm flying on Monday 😉

Perhaps you can implement the same. And it would be free.

Safety first 😎

kebekus commented 4 months ago

@tue-kyndal Thanks. I am confused because I cannot find the OGN viewer app anywhere. Can you help?

tue-kyndal commented 4 months ago

OMG...its been taken down https://github.com/Meisterschueler/ogn-viewer-android?tab=readme-ov-file see issue #39 I hope they resolve it soon. That is a really good app for glider enthusiasts.

Should be possible to side load https://ogn-viewer-flarm-radar.en.softonic.com/android Let me know if you would like me to post a backup apk

Anyway. Yesterday flu to a private airfield in an old super cup with no transponder. My eta was a bit uncertain, due heavy winds and some build up etc. I had to navigate. I turned on my see you app, and the ground crew could follow me just fine on flight radar, and was there to pick me up when I arrived. Rather handy. And if I got into trouble, I could have notified ATC about my pretense on flight radar 24. didn't though, I was just using standard station reports for the VFR flight.

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