Alex-hawks / Electric-Expansion

Electric Expansion, Universal Electricity expanded! Adds more cables, energy storage and more!
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[Major Problem] Infinite Modulable Power Source (convert 79Watts to 4MegaWatts) #42

Open Zyth23 opened 11 years ago

Zyth23 commented 11 years ago

Hi there, I posted this issue first on the UE forum, and someone told me to repost it on the UE github, then Calclavia told me to rerepost it here. (If you need me to show the problem ingame I can, just tell me when and where) So here is the problem:

I was playing the other day, and I asked myself how I could get more power without using massive hydrogen generator or nuclear reactor to get Huge income of Power.

I tested to use the Complex Machine Ocean generator, which didn't worked on the pack I use, and I tested the Heat generator.

If you put the heat surronded by lava soruces on the most side you can, it produce 25j without stopping. (The hydrogen generator needs a power source for the pump to get working and the electrolizorblah needs too, and makes me a bit lags sometime + noise)

Then I tested, by pure hazard, to connect an Advanced Battrybox to my generators, instead of the Energy Cube i was using. And I saw it was possible to change the Output and Input Voltage. Then I remembered my Electrotecnic Basics and:

My heat can produce 5j permanently, Joules are some Watts/seconds. The Power (P, watts) equals Voltage(U, volts) multiplied by Intensity(I, ampers) #P = U * I# The Intensity equals Voltage(U, volts) divided by Resistance(R, ohm) #I = U/R#

Then I tryied to bring some 120V electricity on my Advanced box, and with Upgrade returning 960V or output. After that I tryied with 2 Adv boxes in Parrallele cabling. (box 1 output isn't connected to box 2 output, their both output joins to go to the same destination) And i got a better result of power going out of my boxes. Then I tryied to put 5 Adv Box in parrallele and I got that:

With a basic Heat Generator on 1 lava, producing 5j, which equals to 79watts. Going into my 5 adv box in parallele, which had each 960v output. Final power = 2MegaWatts.

With 10 Adv Box I can reach over 4 MegaWatts of output.(with the Heat producing 5j (79watts)

This is infinite power, and to not explode your machines then, put some Energy Cube, which don't burn / implode / explode when receiving over 79KiloAmps. NOTE: I also tryied with an Advanced Battery Box instead of the Energy Cube, and got same result. The Adv Battery Box doesn't explode / implode due to the 79KiloAmps (This mean the problem isn't from Mekanism Energy Cube)

BUT you don't need to do the upgrades, with Adv Box at 120v out / in. Same Result.

Then you can power everything, extremely fast and realy realy realy realy realy cheap, with this system.

But this isn't supposed to be like that, wire have "max amper", i used the Silver one, which have "max amper=300" but it supported over 79KiloAmpers (= 79'000Ampers)

The only "little" thing which is sad, it's that all Adv Boxes you place in Parrallele never charge all (5MJ with income of 5j too long) I will try to make this system with a Serial Parallelle build (some block of 2 Adv Box in parallele placed in serial) and give info if it worked and if it's even more cheated.

This system doesn't only concerne ElectricExpansion, but the entire UE pack.

Then I'm happy to have an infinite easy buildable power source, but this is kinda Cheaty.

Hope my explaination were clear enought.

Cordialy, Zyth.

DarkGuardsman commented 11 years ago

this is a dead mod just to inform you as the author is simi-gone.

Zyth23 commented 11 years ago

Then this mean no more 1.6+ Electric Possibilities? Or another mod will replace it? (As Basic Component is dead too, this will be hardcore)

DarkGuardsman commented 11 years ago

Calclavai and a few others are making a new version of the mod for 1.6 and possible the modjam. As well i'm working on a version too but it will be more like Basic Components

Zyth23 commented 11 years ago

Okay this sound good, so you (and others working on what you've described) can try to not produce the same Infinite Power source then.