Poor performance

[intellitour]

Browser is advised as:

But...

This is Thorium running on my MacBook Pro 16" (M1 Max - 64gb RAM):

And this is the same benchmark on Safari:

And this os the same benchmark on Google Chrome:

So... Thorium is the slowest. I don't get it. Am I doing something wrong?

[jigglywatts]

Here is my Thorium benchmark on a M2 Max with 32GB ram and a bunch of other tabs and apps open

[Alex313031]

@intellitour No, that is strange though. But then again I don't have a Mac, and rely on another person to actually build it and test it.

It should at the very least not be slower than Chrome. However, Safari will outperform it, since it is highly tuned for apple hardware, and is built on a different web engine (webkit versus chromium's blink), so it shouldn't be used for competing Chromium based browser performance. Safari seems to beat any other browser. That's one side effect of being apple being a walled garden that makes both hardware and software.

We still need to build M117 for MacOS, so you can test it again when we make new release. Also make sure that you are comparing the same major version number (so 117), as it is not an apples to apples comparison otherwise, and performance may be better or worse depending on version.

@midzer We should test this for M117.

[intellitour]

I actually tested it against latest Chrome version (118.0.5993.88).

[midzer]

We're in the process of building M117 for Mac.

[csrutil]

Chip: Apple M1 Pro Total Number of Cores: 10 (8 performance and 2 efficiency) Memory: 32 GB Safari Version 16.6.1 (17615.3.12.11.5, 17615)

[peter-lxc]

Chip: Apple M2 Pro Total Number of Cores: 10 (6 performance and 4 efficiency) Memory: 16 GB OS - Sonoma 14.0 Thorium - Version 116.0.5845.169 (Official Build) (arm64)

and same hardware Safari 17.0 (19616.1.27.211.1)

[viktorvsk]

Mac M1 2020, 16GB, Sonoma 14.0

Browser	Speedometer
Chrome Version 114.0.5735.133 (Official Build) (arm64)	387
Thorium Version 116.0.5845.169 (Official Build) (arm64)	383
Safari Version 17.0 (19616.1.27.211.1)	424

Even though Thorium and Chromium are very close — at least animations are WAY MUCH better in Chromium

[midzer]

Mac M1 2020 (Heatpad modded), 16GB, Sonoma 14.1, idle system with (probably) minimal background tasks

Chromium M117: 433 (+-4,9) Safari latest: ~435

Still trying to get Thorium build for M117. Linker errors...scores will follow once successfully built.

[thataboy]

WOW!

M1 base processor 16GB RAM, Sonoma 14.2

thorium 119.0.6045.214: 397 chrome 120.0.6099.216: 347 safari: 449

Kudos to the devs.

Note: I have quite a few extensions in thorium and none in safari since I don't use safari

[piotrnikov]

Apple M3 Max Thorium 120.0.6099.235 Safari 17.3 Yikes. That's some difference. I don't use Safari but I just might! Any plans on looking into this? Best,

Piotr

[midzer]

@piotrnikov Strange, I had ~450 on a M1 Air.

@Alex313031 Do we (mis)optimize for a certain ARM64 Mac architecture?

[piotrnikov]

@midzer I don't know if it's useful or not but I have these Extensions installed on Thorium...

[midzer]

In fact, Browser extensions do slow down browsing and JS execution speed. Some more, some less.

If running Speedometer, always do it in Incognito tab with no extensions enabled.

[piotrnikov]

@midzer Without any extensions I'm getting 459. So more like you :)

[midzer]

@piotrnikov But not enough for a M3. With Thorium M119 we had over 600 points on a M3.

Try a fresh reboot and check your background services. Yeah, Safari score is quite impressive.