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Normalize Colored Steel recipes (#271) #277

Closed strider820 closed 4 months ago

strider820 commented 4 months ago

Change gtceu red and blue steel dust recipes to use the same color-themed dusts as TFC - fixes #271

Nyxane commented 4 months ago

Is TFC steel the correct recipe?

strider820 commented 4 months ago

@Nyxane the TFC steel recipes make more sense, because it uses red ores to make red and blue(ish) ores to make blue

Nyxane commented 4 months ago

Red-ish ingredients don't always turn out red

strider820 commented 4 months ago

I mean, sure... but they don't always not turn out red... would you rather go the other way? I guess if you'd rather make it more accurate to real-world "blue steel" and "red steel" then we should be using chromium and tungsten for blue, and chromium, copper, and nickel for red

strider820 commented 4 months ago

but I guess that also uses blue-ish metals for blue and red-ish metals for red, so maybe that means tfc is "right"?

Nyxane commented 4 months ago

Do you have the source for this? i tried looking it up before and couldn't find any "official" or "reliable" info

strider820 commented 4 months ago

well, I trusted google's ai, so it might not be official or reliable for red steel, but for blue steel, looks like in the world of kitchen knives, a few of them use the same alloy and refer to it as "blue steel" https://hitachiyausa.com/collections/blue-steel-super-blue-steel https://www.echefknife.com/blogs/blog/high-carbon-steel-explained-white-steel-blue-steel-and-super-blue#:~:text=Blue%20steel%20has%20tungsten%20and,such%20a%20fine%20cutting%20edge.

strider820 commented 4 months ago

https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/237263/how-can-i-get-a-high-quality-blue-colored-alloy

Nyxane commented 4 months ago

I'd like to know where TFC and GT got their recipes from since neither of these don't seem to reference any of the metals used other than steel

strider820 commented 4 months ago

Without asking the devs directly, the earliest info I could find is from 2018 on the TFC discord talking about blue and red steel being fictional, and considering replacing them with stainless steel and tungsten respectively. Seems since it's fictional alloys, there's no true "correct" recipe.

Gregtech's discord doesn't go as far back, but they also talk about them being fictional, possibly replacing them and the fact that the recipes are close to TFC recipes

strider820 commented 4 months ago

I did notice that if we change to TFC's recipe, we'll need to swap the GT chemical definitions in the tool tip as well

thevortex commented 4 months ago

I did notice that if we change to TFC's recipe, we'll need to swap the GT chemical definitions in the tool tip as well

it would require modifying the entry itself in GTs chemical library as i believe that information represents all the various elements you can get from the material should you break it down far enough, i am not sure if we can do that in kube but we might* be able to pull off that part in the coremod

strider820 commented 4 months ago

in that case, for ease of update, should I close this PR and go with a new PR that goes the other way to update TFC's recipe instead?