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Allen Institute Taxonomy building R package
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Some Excitatory neuron subtypes are missing in cell type taxonomy? #28

Closed DingWB closed 2 months ago

DingWB commented 2 months ago

Hi Nelson @UCDNJJ ,

Thanks for releasing this wonderful cell type taxonomy, I quickly performed an integration between our human single-cell DNA methylation dataset with your human sc-RNA-seq dataset. The integration of most Non-Neuron and Inhibitory neurons looks good, but not the excitatory neurons (Please see the following figures, mC stands for DNA methylation and RNA for your human single-cell RNA-seq data from HMBA):

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Could you please add more excitatory neuron subtypes to this cell type taxonomy? such as upper layer and deep layer IT, ET, NP and CT neurons.

UCDNJJ commented 2 months ago

Hi @DingWB,

Really nice work, the alignment of core basal ganglia types looks very good across modalities! Interesting how distinct the 29 MSN strip/mat hybrid is in methylation data. There are very few excitatory types in Basal Ganglia and you seem to have captured them.

This taxonomy is restricted to Basal Ganglia so mapping cortical excitatory types will have to be done using another study such as Siletti et al. 2023.

-Nelson

DingWB commented 2 months ago

Hi Nelson @UCDNJJ ,

I see. The snmC-seq methylation data I used here includes all brain regions from Wei Tian 2023 paper, in addition to Basal Ganglia, there are also cortex regions. I will use your cell type taxonomy first, and will add some excitatory neuron subtypes to this taxonomy if I identify some subtype that is not included in your taxonomy.

Thank you.

DingWB commented 1 month ago

Hi @UCDNJJ , I redo the integration with the basal ganglia regions only (['A25', 'ACC', 'A46', 'BNST', 'MD-Re', 'Pu', 'A24', 'CBL', 'CaB', 'IC', 'M1C', 'SI', 'NAC', 'MD', 'CBV', 'PN', 'V1C', 'GPe']), see the following figure for the integration results of neurons. Indeed, we captured many excitatory neuron subtypes that are missing in your cell taxonomy.

I would like to add some excitatory neuron subtypes to your taxonomy, do you have any idea about how to do that?

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UCDNJJ commented 1 month ago

From your list only these are basal ganglia: ['Pu', 'CaB', 'NAC', 'GPe'] but you could also include adjacent structures 'SI'.

Many of the regions you list are cortical which explains why you are picking up the layer specific excitatory types.

DingWB commented 1 month ago

Based on the sample sheet provided by the community, V1C, MTC, M1C, BNST are also basal ganglia regions

Am I using the wrong version of basal ganglia list?

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UCDNJJ commented 1 month ago

You can use the human reference brain atlas to understand what are basal ganglia regions: https://atlas.brain-map.org/atlas?atlas=265297126#atlas=265297126&plate=112363198&structure=10332&x=27897.8828125&y=61758.140625&zoom=-5&resolution=62.24&z=3.

For example, V1C, M1C, MTC are all cortex.

From that table it looks like you want regions marked as Core BG region.

DingWB commented 1 month ago

Thank you, Nelson @UCDNJJ . I have been using the wrong Basal Ganglia regions. I thought all of the regions with priority level = 1 are basal ganglia regions.

One more question, how about the BG region (such as BNST and BNM) and BG output target (such as MD) in that table, should they be included as Basal Ganglia regions?