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Development of OpenFOAM wall functions for turbulent flows
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Reference curves for skin friction coefficient #7

Closed AndreWeiner closed 3 years ago

AndreWeiner commented 3 years ago

Hi Jihoo, let's clear the doubts we have about the different c_f reference curves. I have digitized and uploaded Wieghardts c_f measurements for the flat plate without pressure gradient to the cloud folder. Next, I suggest the following:

If questions come up, simply reply here.

Best, Andre

JihooKang-KOR commented 3 years ago

Dear Andre,

I made draft plots for reference curves in a jupyter notebook. However, first of all, I would like to check how the generic equation behaves depending on m, p, and n values. Thus, I used a regression method this time instead of a simple brute force method.

After investigating the behavior, there are some findings as follows;

  1. The values m, p, and n strongly depend on each initial value, and therefore the final values vary (a lot of local minima).
  2. Those local minima have similar cost values approximately 3.5e-8, and the shapes of the graph are quite similar as well.
  3. Due to the above two reasons, I am not sure if the brute force approach works or not. The shape will not dramatically be distinguishable among them.

The distinguishable part should be the very front part of the plate. However, we can see this part only in Wieghardt curve in OpenFOAM as follows. This steep slope can be a decisive factor for determining m, p, and n, but there is no experimental data for the region. The other plots are in the notebook 'RefCurves_Cf.ipynb'.

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I would like to report that this is the current situation for the reference curves for skin friction.

Best regards, Jihoo Kang

AndreWeiner commented 3 years ago

Hi Jihoo, thanks for the update. I expected there to be many local minima, which is why I suggested brute-forcing the optimal solution instead of using something like a Newton method. The exact parameters for the reference curve are not really that important. Ultimately, agreement with the experimental results is what counts the most when looking at our numerical results. A hint for the plot above: if you visualize experimental data (or any other discrete data source), please use scatter instead of plot. Best, Andre