Include validation figures (HRDs) of cluster members from Kunder

[andycasey]

Or include a figure comparing the test labels we get.

From email by Kunder:

Hi Andy,

One additional idea would be to use the Pleiades cluster stars for the dwarf/main sequence calibration, as Melissa did in her 2015 paper. There are 89 RAVE stars which I have identified as Pleiades cluster members, based on their radial velocities and distance from cluster center. We also have 17 IC4651 RAVE stars, 26 RAVE Hyades stars, 57 RAVE M67 stars (selected using proper motion) and 20 RAVE Blanco 1 stars (selected using proper motion), which are stars mainly located on the main sequence or turn-off, so could be used for the dwarf/main sequence calibration. The metallicity distribution of these five open clusters is not huge, though.

Cheers, Andrea

[amkunder]

I sent four tables with the RAVE stars in M67, Hyades, Pleiades, and IC4651 to Keith. Here are the plots showing the location of these stars in an HR-diagram (using RAVE DR4 parameters), as well as their radial velocities. The points with red circles designate the stars which are considered cluster members.

Hyades: Hyades2-eps-converted-to.pdf Hyades1-eps-converted-to.pdf

IC4651: ic46511-eps-converted-to.pdf ic46512-eps-converted-to.pdf

Pleiades Pleiades1-eps-converted-to.pdf Pleiades2-eps-converted-to.pdf

M67 (only used RAVE star that had a proper motion consistent with M67 from Yanez et al. 2008, A&A, 484, 609)

M671-eps-converted-to.pdf M672-eps-converted-to.pdf

[andycasey]

Thanks @amkunder! Keith said he would make plots based on those stars, but he is currently moving so I might ask you for the tables in case he runs out of time.

So far the bigger problem with the main-sequence has been constructing the 'right' model, rather than the 'right' training set. If we don't use these open cluster stars as part of the training set, then we should definitely include figures comparing our labels to those isochrones & metallicities/radial velocities.

[andycasey]

@amkunder @keithhawkins would either of you be able to send those RAVE_OBS_ID entries to me for each cluster? (or post them here)

[amkunder]

Please find inline at the bottom the various tables. The columns are (1) RAVE_OBS_ID (2) RA (3) Dec (4) K (5) J-K (6) RV(hello) (7) Teff (DR4) (8) logg (DR4) (9) FeH (DR4) (10) SNR (11) AlgoConv

Pleiades

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20120107_0336p23_012 52.86808 21.82192 7.824 0.247 2.1 +- 2.5 6242 +- 117 3.62 +- 0.18 0.05 +- 0.13 62 0
20120107_0336p23_042 51.92525 23.80364 8.679 0.387 5.0 +- 1.3 5942 +- 98 3.72 +- 0.16 -0.05 +- 0.10 53 2
20120107_0336p23_063 52.16862 25.60778 9.723 0.475 1.9 +- 3.1 4912 +- 69 4.57 +- 0.14 -0.12 +- 0.09 30 0
20120107_0336p23_065 52.35583 25.65225 8.270 0.189 8.5 +- 1.9 3400 +- 134 5.50 +- 0.17 -4.36 +- 0.06 73 3
20120107_0336p23_067 52.81646 25.25547 7.457 0.130 -2.3 +- 4.0 7334 +- 82 3.77 +- 0.13 0.07 +- 0.11 86 1
20120107_0336p23_069 53.53046 24.34444 8.274 0.279 5.9 +- 2.0 6258 +- 82 3.88 +- 0.13 -0.11 +- 0.11 77 0
20120107_0336p23_071 53.50754 24.88089 9.178 0.404 3.4 +- 1.3 5517 +- 98 4.73 +- 0.16 -0.07 +- 0.10 69 0
20120107_0336p23_075 53.69671 26.09483 8.833 0.407 3.0 +- 1.8 5544 +- 111 3.46 +- 0.20 -0.09 +- 0.09 58 0
20120107_0336p23_085 55.40067 25.61931 8.593 0.366 2.2 +- 1.4 3400 +- 94 5.50 +- 0.11 -4.36 +- 0.06 75 3
20120107_0336p23_088 54.77804 24.70286 7.032 -0.053 11.2 +- 10.1 8000 +- 152 4.50 +- 0.21 -0.53 +- 0.14 65 3
20120107_0336p23_090 54.80617 24.46653 8.905 0.327 4.5 +- 1.4 5625 +- 67 4.39 +- 0.10 -0.18 +- 0.09 79 0
20120107_0336p23_091 54.73696 24.56981 9.041 0.317 5.0 +- 1.7 5799 +- 98 4.66 +- 0.16 -0.14 +- 0.10 62 0
20120107_0336p23_094 55.12804 24.48731 9.556 0.526 3.9 +- 2.4 4769 +- 69 4.78 +- 0.14 -0.09 +- 0.09 34 0
20120107_0336p23_099 54.86583 23.89500 9.475 0.482 3.1 +- 1.7 5278 +- 98 4.65 +- 0.16 -0.00 +- 0.10 50 0
20120107_0336p23_101 55.36592 23.70836 9.313 0.448 4.1 +- 1.6 5284 +- 98 4.57 +- 0.16 -0.10 +- 0.10 66 3
20120107_0336p23_106 56.27725 24.26353 7.738 0.154 6.8 +- 2.9 7539 +- 117 4.12 +- 0.18 -0.13 +- 0.13 45 0
20120107_0336p23_107 56.66387 24.10319 8.191 0.241 5.1 +- 1.5 6271 +- 82 3.96 +- 0.13 -0.12 +- 0.11 109 0
20120107_0336p23_110 56.27200 23.70267 8.000 0.205 5.7 +- 1.1 6693 +- 82 4.35 +- 0.13 -0.17 +- 0.11 111 0
20120107_0336p23_113 56.64250 23.62403 7.067 0.174 8.9 +- 13.8 8000 +- 257 4.50 +- 0.30 -1.07 +- 0.19 52 3
20120107_0336p23_115 56.21350 23.26892 7.984 0.200 5.6 +- 1.4 6592 +- 82 4.11 +- 0.13 -0.15 +- 0.11 96 0
20120107_0336p23_117 55.14317 23.68261 9.148 0.437 4.0 +- 1.6 5602 +- 98 4.53 +- 0.16 0.10 +- 0.10 54 0
20120107_0336p23_119 56.84542 22.92211 7.520 0.098 6.8 +- 2.5 7666 +- 82 4.48 +- 0.13 0.09 +- 0.11 85 0
20120107_0336p23_120 54.92158 23.29089 8.634 0.286 3.9 +- 1.8 5931 +- 67 3.75 +- 0.10 0.09 +- 0.09 82 0
20120107_0336p23_122 55.74675 22.90092 9.713 0.567 5.2 +- 2.5 4832 +- 69 4.66 +- 0.14 0.17 +- 0.09 34 0
20120107_0336p23_124 55.51967 22.85856 8.002 0.234 5.7 +- 1.4 6253 +- 82 3.73 +- 0.13 -0.13 +- 0.11 87 2
20120107_0336p23_128 55.51642 22.42689 9.159 0.638 6.6 +- 3.0 3799 +- 85 5.49 +- 0.17 -0.30 +- 0.10 40 3
20120107_0336p23_129 56.24550 22.03244 8.278 0.242 6.5 +- 1.4 6215 +- 82 3.88 +- 0.13 -0.17 +- 0.11 96 2
20120107_0336p23_132 56.29117 21.70458 8.586 0.316 5.7 +- 1.5 5806 +- 67 4.49 +- 0.10 -0.11 +- 0.09 90 0
20120107_0336p23_139 55.60000 21.47350 8.526 0.271 6.3 +- 1.1 5869 +- 67 3.93 +- 0.10 -0.17 +- 0.09 89 1
20120107_0336p23_142 54.59408 22.49969 8.696 0.322 4.8 +- 1.4 5979 +- 98 4.49 +- 0.16 0.03 +- 0.10 74 0
20120109_0346p23_005 56.49642 25.39858 7.538 0.067 11.3 +- 4.3 7785 +- 82 4.28 +- 0.13 -0.00 +- 0.11 92 1
20120109_0346p23_061 55.60008 22.42114 8.758 0.359 4.8 +- 1.9 3200 +- 134 5.50 +- 0.17 -4.36 +- 0.06 48 3
20120109_0346p23_085 56.55288 23.12853 7.285 0.288 -7.4 +- 0.9 6198 +- 82 4.37 +- 0.13 0.14 +- 0.11 121 2
20120109_0346p23_087 57.92533 21.66836 9.452 0.451 3.5 +- 3.8 5000 +- 233 3.50 +- 0.40 0.06 +- 0.15 23 4
20120109_0346p23_089 58.25992 21.66014 8.833 0.480 12.4 +- 2.2 5099 +- 98 4.65 +- 0.16 0.04 +- 0.10 32 0
20120109_0346p23_092 57.18292 23.25983 7.631 0.127 4.5 +- 2.3 7031 +- 82 3.80 +- 0.13 0.10 +- 0.11 93 0
20120109_0346p23_095 57.58875 23.09639 9.385 0.478 4.2 +- 2.3 5111 +- 98 4.53 +- 0.16 -0.10 +- 0.10 37 0
20120109_0346p23_103 57.48537 23.21864 8.796 0.349 4.4 +- 1.6 5966 +- 98 4.30 +- 0.16 -0.01 +- 0.10 65 0
20120109_0346p23_105 59.00596 23.12633 7.681 0.333 7.8 +- 1.5 6290 +- 74 3.50 +- 0.13 -0.06 +- 0.09 66 0
20120109_0346p23_107 56.72400 23.58356 8.996 0.354 4.3 +- 1.4 5929 +- 98 4.48 +- 0.16 0.02 +- 0.10 65 0
20120109_0346p23_109 57.98692 23.90197 8.632 0.351 3.4 +- 1.6 5841 +- 98 3.94 +- 0.16 -0.07 +- 0.10 72 0
20120109_0346p23_115 58.58996 24.07569 8.424 0.263 -3.8 +- 5.5 3200 +- 134 5.50 +- 0.17 -4.36 +- 0.06 30 3
20120109_0346p23_117 57.72954 24.19747 9.629 0.487 3.7 +- 3.8 4983 +- 69 3.53 +- 0.14 0.06 +- 0.09 27 0
20120109_0346p23_121 58.34875 24.06506 9.439 0.510 10.6 +- 3.8 6500 +- 308 4.50 +- 0.34 0.25 +- 0.27 24 0
20120109_0346p23_127 58.22283 24.71572 8.259 0.258 4.2 +- 1.3 3400 +- 134 5.50 +- 0.17 -4.36 +- 0.06 63 3
20120109_0346p23_129 58.00933 24.66331 9.072 0.725 -3.6 +- 5.4 3200 +- 134 5.50 +- 0.17 -4.36 +- 0.06 26 3
20120109_0346p23_131 57.48583 24.34900 7.350 -0.004 8.5 +- 9.5 8000 +- 97 4.50 +- 0.14 -0.58 +- 0.11 80 3
20120109_0346p23_133 57.14492 24.18114 7.769 0.292 2.9 +- 2.1 6119 +- 117 3.63 +- 0.18 0.07 +- 0.13 60 2
20120109_0346p23_135 57.35717 24.93764 8.805 0.479 0.1 +- 2.1 5224 +- 98 4.47 +- 0.16 -0.10 +- 0.10 49 3
20120109_0346p23_137 57.57362 25.37956 8.382 0.263 3.0 +- 1.2 6247 +- 117 3.73 +- 0.18 -0.09 +- 0.13 43 0
20120109_0346p23_139 57.47046 25.64744 8.254 0.235 0.6 +- 1.7 6085 +- 117 3.67 +- 0.18 -0.06 +- 0.13 55 2
20120109_0346p23_140 57.07033 25.21511 7.862 0.275 3.0 +- 1.6 6230 +- 82 3.65 +- 0.13 -0.03 +- 0.11 77 0
20120109_0346p23_141 56.94517 25.38569 7.706 0.098 -1.8 +- 3.9 7605 +- 117 4.03 +- 0.18 0.26 +- 0.13 52 0
20120112_0346p23_005 56.49642 25.39858 7.538 0.067 5.8 +- 3.5 7881 +- 117 4.20 +- 0.18 -0.08 +- 0.13 43 3
20120112_0346p23_061 55.60008 22.42114 8.758 0.359 4.5 +- 2.1 3400 +- 94 5.50 +- 0.11 -4.36 +- 0.06 84 3
20120112_0346p23_085 56.55288 23.12853 7.285 0.288 -8.6 +- 1.3 6093 +- 82 4.13 +- 0.13 0.11 +- 0.11 114 2
20120112_0346p23_087 57.92533 21.66836 9.452 0.451 3.7 +- 1.3 5395 +- 98 4.50 +- 0.16 -0.01 +- 0.10 46 3
20120112_0346p23_089 58.25992 21.66014 8.833 0.480 8.6 +- 3.4 5018 +- 98 4.69 +- 0.16 -0.09 +- 0.10 51 0
20120112_0346p23_092 57.18292 23.25983 7.631 0.127 1.4 +- 2.5 6976 +- 82 3.86 +- 0.13 -0.02 +- 0.11 108 0
20120112_0346p23_095 57.58875 23.09639 9.385 0.478 3.0 +- 1.9 5502 +- 98 4.90 +- 0.16 0.01 +- 0.10 72 0
20120112_0346p23_103 57.48537 23.21864 8.796 0.349 4.3 +- 1.5 5767 +- 67 4.00 +- 0.10 -0.23 +- 0.09 113 2
20120112_0346p23_105 59.00596 23.12633 7.681 0.333 5.1 +- 1.4 6278 +- 79 3.47 +- 0.14 -0.03 +- 0.09 96 0
20120112_0346p23_107 56.72400 23.58356 8.996 0.354 2.6 +- 1.5 5605 +- 67 4.56 +- 0.10 -0.16 +- 0.09 85 1
20120112_0346p23_109 57.98692 23.90197 8.632 0.351 2.4 +- 1.2 5844 +- 98 3.97 +- 0.16 -0.20 +- 0.10 70 2
20120112_0346p23_115 58.58996 24.07569 8.424 0.263 0.1 +- 4.0 6090 +- 74 3.41 +- 0.13 0.03 +- 0.09 33 0
20120112_0346p23_117 57.72954 24.19747 9.629 0.487 3.6 +- 2.0 5271 +- 98 4.91 +- 0.16 -0.14 +- 0.10 37 0
20120112_0346p23_121 58.34875 24.06506 9.439 0.510 4.6 +- 6.0 7496 +- 494 4.50 +- 0.52 0.25 +- 0.43 11 0
20120112_0346p23_127 58.22283 24.71572 8.259 0.258 2.9 +- 1.8 3400 +- 134 5.50 +- 0.17 -4.36 +- 0.06 68 3
20120112_0346p23_129 58.00933 24.66331 9.072 0.725 8.4 +- 6.9 3600 +- 99 4.50 +- 0.19 -0.68 +- 0.11 26 0
20120112_0346p23_131 57.48583 24.34900 7.350 -0.004 4.3 +- 10.1 8000 +- 152 4.50 +- 0.21 -0.47 +- 0.14 65 3
20120112_0346p23_133 57.14492 24.18114 7.769 0.292 3.1 +- 1.8 5890 +- 111 3.00 +- 0.20 -0.02 +- 0.09 69 0
20120112_0346p23_135 57.35717 24.93764 8.805 0.479 0.4 +- 2.8 5202 +- 98 4.94 +- 0.16 0.08 +- 0.10 32 0
20120112_0346p23_137 57.57362 25.37956 8.382 0.263 3.0 +- 3.3 6273 +- 117 3.67 +- 0.18 0.04 +- 0.13 36 0
20120112_0346p23_139 57.47046 25.64744 8.254 0.235 2.5 +- 1.8 6416 +- 117 4.17 +- 0.18 -0.00 +- 0.13 52 0
20120112_0346p23_140 57.07033 25.21511 7.862 0.275 1.7 +- 1.6 5950 +- 98 3.54 +- 0.16 -0.06 +- 0.10 69 0
20120112_0346p23_141 56.94517 25.38569 7.706 0.098 0.7 +- 2.9 7620 +- 117 3.99 +- 0.18 0.27 +- 0.13 54 0
20120118_0346p25_013 55.01283 27.74050 8.373 0.265 0.0 +- 2.8 6222 +- 117 3.66 +- 0.18 0.17 +- 0.13 45 0
20120118_0346p25_018 56.28421 26.29250 9.443 0.504 1.2 +- 1.9 5247 +- 98 4.45 +- 0.16 0.04 +- 0.10 51 3
20120118_0346p25_023 54.97383 26.71697 8.660 0.343 1.5 +- 2.1 6043 +- 117 4.01 +- 0.18 -0.05 +- 0.13 44 0
20120118_0346p25_027 55.02396 26.19639 9.264 0.494 -8.2 +- 2.5 5247 +- 98 4.49 +- 0.16 -0.10 +- 0.10 50 3
20120118_0346p25_038 55.14946 26.15142 9.395 0.406 1.5 +- 1.7 5445 +- 98 4.81 +- 0.16 0.03 +- 0.10 52 0
20120118_0346p25_107 56.83700 25.52583 8.435 0.285 2.7 +- 2.2 6096 +- 82 3.78 +- 0.13 -0.15 +- 0.11 75 2
20120118_0346p25_113 59.05329 25.76208 8.830 0.336 5.9 +- 0.9 6370 +- 82 3.88 +- 0.13 -0.04 +- 0.11 84 2
20120118_0346p25_124 57.68117 26.04131 9.400 0.381 3.1 +- 1.3 5732 +- 98 3.94 +- 0.16 0.07 +- 0.10 73 0
20120119_0346p25_061 56.30208 24.46728 4.502 0.172 18.0 +- 23.5 7750 +- 447 4.00 +- 0.43 -3.21 +- 0.40 92 3
20120119_0346p25_068 56.21892 24.11333 3.922 0.156 3.9 +- 33.5 8000 +- 156 4.00 +- 0.21 -1.47 +- 0.13 89 3
20120119_0346p25_073 56.45671 24.36775 3.986 0.073 13.7 +- 21.3 8000 +- 156 4.00 +- 0.21 -0.90 +- 0.13 108 3
20120119_0346p25_087 57.29675 24.13672 4.937 0.150 12.6 +- 10.5 7749 +- 152 4.50 +- 0.21 -0.61 +- 0.14 41 3

Hyades:

20111126_0428p15_015 66.85558 14.26067 7.713 0.661 39.4 +- 1.2 4520 +- 66 4.53 +- 0.11 -0.10 +- 0.08 88 3
20111126_0428p15_035 65.88471 14.67047 7.145 0.466 40.6 +- 1.1 5137 +- 67 4.93 +- 0.10 0.04 +- 0.09 103 0
20111126_0428p15_061 66.20021 15.87469 7.852 0.864 37.9 +- 1.5 3996 +- 66 5.00 +- 0.11 0.03 +- 0.08 81 3
20111126_0428p15_072 67.04529 16.47094 7.758 0.802 40.1 +- 0.9 4253 +- 66 4.92 +- 0.11 -0.11 +- 0.08 90 3
20111126_0428p15_078 67.49054 16.67283 7.139 0.480 39.1 +- 0.8 5158 +- 67 4.99 +- 0.10 0.09 +- 0.09 124 0
20111126_0428p15_088 68.40817 16.76250 7.351 0.488 38.8 +- 0.9 4987 +- 66 4.70 +- 0.11 0.14 +- 0.08 101 0
20111126_0428p15_097 68.63408 15.82756 7.553 0.508 38.8 +- 0.8 5001 +- 67 4.75 +- 0.10 0.14 +- 0.09 95 0
20111126_0428p15_103 69.02192 15.68400 7.373 0.487 39.6 +- 0.9 5123 +- 67 4.74 +- 0.10 0.08 +- 0.09 133 0
20111126_0428p15_113 67.96863 15.49947 7.895 0.772 39.8 +- 1.0 4408 +- 69 4.80 +- 0.14 0.08 +- 0.09 67 0
20111126_0428p15_126 66.94600 14.41775 7.348 0.546 37.1 +- 1.1 4986 +- 69 4.86 +- 0.14 0.11 +- 0.09 54 0
20111126_0428p15_140 68.10688 13.11322 7.654 0.769 -12.5 +- 4.1 4100 +- 66 4.98 +- 0.11 0.31 +- 0.08 2031 3
20111126_0458p15_024 72.50296 16.41206 7.839 0.646 42.3 +- 1.1 4615 +- 66 4.96 +- 0.11 0.06 +- 0.08 81 2
20111126_0458p15_039 71.89725 14.88908 8.170 0.740 41.3 +- 1.1 4250 +- 69 4.97 +- 0.14 -0.11 +- 0.09 54 3
20111201_0430p15_011 67.01850 13.86794 7.003 0.503 38.2 +- 1.4 5297 +- 98 4.68 +- 0.16 0.06 +- 0.10 68 0
20111201_0430p15_039 66.05192 14.75819 6.007 0.350 40.5 +- 1.2 5731 +- 67 4.62 +- 0.10 -0.13 +- 0.09 113 2
20111201_0430p15_054 66.05325 16.37892 6.797 0.284 40.3 +- 1.0 5786 +- 67 4.21 +- 0.10 -0.09 +- 0.09 90 0
20111201_0430p15_061 65.68650 16.79103 6.203 0.372 41.2 +- 0.9 5551 +- 67 4.50 +- 0.10 -0.06 +- 0.09 108 2
20111201_0430p15_085 68.20879 16.00581 6.770 0.515 41.7 +- 0.9 5001 +- 67 4.80 +- 0.10 0.06 +- 0.09 106 0
20111201_0430p15_106 69.38329 15.14644 5.992 0.373 43.6 +- 1.0 5704 +- 67 4.34 +- 0.10 -0.01 +- 0.09 160 2
20111201_0430p15_115 68.49392 15.16361 6.465 0.524 40.9 +- 0.8 5091 +- 67 4.79 +- 0.10 0.03 +- 0.09 112 0
20111201_0430p15_124 69.73879 14.10558 6.443 0.371 39.6 +- 1.3 5765 +- 67 4.56 +- 0.10 0.01 +- 0.09 124 0
20111201_0430p15_141 67.87229 13.90347 6.455 0.278 39.2 +- 0.9 6028 +- 82 4.19 +- 0.13 0.08 +- 0.11 101 0
20111202_0455p14_017 72.38383 15.88875 6.355 0.287 42.7 +- 0.7 5914 +- 67 4.04 +- 0.10 0.06 +- 0.09 180 0
20111202_0455p14_023 72.21533 15.94756 7.737 0.496 41.9 +- 1.5 5050 +- 67 4.84 +- 0.10 0.02 +- 0.09 79 0
20111202_0455p14_033 71.62663 15.47206 6.738 0.360 42.8 +- 0.8 5579 +- 67 4.46 +- 0.10 -0.05 +- 0.09 122 0
20111202_0455p14_047 72.64092 15.08344 6.044 0.395 42.1 +- 1.2 5428 +- 67 4.82 +- 0.10 0.05 +- 0.09 165 0

M67

20070409_0851p11_051 132.57612 11.92250 7.423 0.664 44.9 +- 1.0 4748 +- 62 1.91 +- 0.14 -0.21 +- 0.08 85 0
20070409_0851p11_072 132.80288 11.87842 7.976 0.674 35.3 +- 0.5 4702 +- 77 2.40 +- 0.14 -0.13 +- 0.08 68 0
20070409_0851p11_091 132.93287 11.94508 7.996 0.622 34.2 +- 0.9 4753 +- 77 2.28 +- 0.14 -0.16 +- 0.08 66 0
20070409_0851p11_105 132.92642 11.83542 9.187 0.642 34.9 +- 0.7 4892 +- 77 3.24 +- 0.14 0.05 +- 0.08 59 2
20070409_0851p11_120 133.07742 11.74064 7.923 0.649 34.7 +- 0.8 4698 +- 77 2.24 +- 0.14 -0.05 +- 0.08 66 0
20070409_0851p11_146 132.83983 11.76836 8.947 0.655 32.9 +- 1.1 4851 +- 77 3.31 +- 0.14 0.10 +- 0.08 63 0
20070529_0851p11_013 132.82725 11.82258 11.145 0.361 34.3 +- 7.6 7500 +- 464 4.50 +- 0.56 0.25 +- 0.41 11 0
20070529_0851p11_035 132.64329 11.66578 11.177 0.336 26.7 +- 12.0 3600 +- 329 4.50 +- 0.51 -0.68 +- 0.35 6 0
20070529_0851p11_058 132.75075 11.90886 10.860 0.462 54.8 +- 28.9 7750 +- 494 4.00 +- 0.52 0.25 +- 0.43 5 0
20070529_0851p11_101 132.89754 11.96564 11.030 0.417 33.9 +- 5.8 5000 +- 333 3.50 +- 0.49 0.25 +- 0.26 7 4
20070529_0851p11_143 132.93642 11.77942 10.822 0.535 24.9 +- 4.2 4750 +- 181 3.00 +- 0.50 0.07 +- 0.21 11 4
20070601_0851p11_013 132.82725 11.82258 11.145 0.361 33.9 +- 2.0 5741 +- 103 3.35 +- 0.23 -0.23 +- 0.10 30 0
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[andycasey]

@amkunder you are a legend!

[keithhawkins]

I believe that's already done. I sent through via email a fits table of them and slightly modified the clusters python script to do the same figures as the GCs for the OCs. I can resend it.

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@amkunder https://github.com/amkunder @keithhawkins https://github.com/keithhawkins would either of you be able to send those RAVE_OBS_ID entries to me for each cluster? (or post them here)

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[andycasey]

@keithhawkins I couldn't find your email on this. Can you make H-R diagrams of each OC and GC? Showing a candidate selection based on metallicity/radial velocity is less important to me -- just using @amkunder's OC candidates and your (conservatively-chosen) GC members. Then it would be great to see a Nx2 (column x row) figure showing Teff/logg for each cluster. Left hand panels are unRAVE values, right hand panels can be DR4 values. But be aware we may drop the right hand panel comparisons in the final figure, because the point is not really to compare to DR4 but just to see if our values make sense w.r.t isochrones for each cluster. If possible, follow similar style guide laid out in other figures (e.g., square panel axes, MaxNLocator, etc). There is also a matplotlibrc file that will take care of a lot of the styling. Feel free to commit the isochrones you used to the repository, as they are small and essential for reproducible plotting.

[keithhawkins]

Will do that today. The move to NYC has slight disorganized me so I haven’t had the chance to upload those figures. They should be there by end of the day (US time).

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@keithhawkins https://github.com/keithhawkins I couldn't find your email on this. Can you make H-R diagrams of each OC and GC? Showing a candidate selection based on metallicity/radial velocity is less important to me -- just using @amkunder https://github.com/amkunder's OC candidates and your (conservatively-chosen) GC members. Then it would be great to see a Nx2 (column x row) figure showing Teff/logg for each cluster. Left hand panels are unRAVE values, right hand panels can be DR4 values. But be aware we may drop the right hand panel comparisons in the final figure, because the point is not really to compare to DR4 but just to see if our values make sense w.r.t isochrones for each cluster. If possible, follow similar style guide laid out in other figures (e.g., square panel axes, MaxNLocator, etc). There is also a matplotlibrc file that will take care of a lot of the styling. Feel free to commit the isochrones you used to the repository, as they are small and essential for reproducible plotting.

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[keithhawkins]

H-R diagrams of each OC and GC exist. Maybe a better GC selection should be done. The average cluster metallicities are 0.3-0.4 dex to high for each GC (i.e. the stars are offset from the black isochrone which was assumed to have the cluster metallicity and an age = 10Gyr for the GCs).Additionally, the dispersions on the order of 0.29-0.40 dex (omega cen has the largest dispersion as expected). Maybe GC candidate re-selection will be needed to reduce the star-to-star dispersion within the cluster.

The OCs perform better with offsets as large a 0.10 dex and dispersion ~0.10 dex. I need to quickly grab age estimates for the OCs to put isochrones on top.

On Sep 2, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Andy Casey notifications@github.com wrote:

@keithhawkins https://github.com/keithhawkins I couldn't find your email on this. Can you make H-R diagrams of each OC and GC? Showing a candidate selection based on metallicity/radial velocity is less important to me -- just using @amkunder https://github.com/amkunder's OC candidates and your (conservatively-chosen) GC members. Then it would be great to see a Nx2 (column x row) figure showing Teff/logg for each cluster. Left hand panels are unRAVE values, right hand panels can be DR4 values. But be aware we may drop the right hand panel comparisons in the final figure, because the point is not really to compare to DR4 but just to see if our values make sense w.r.t isochrones for each cluster. If possible, follow similar style guide laid out in other figures (e.g., square panel axes, MaxNLocator, etc). There is also a matplotlibrc file that will take care of a lot of the styling. Feel free to commit the isochrones you used to the repository, as they are small and essential for reproducible plotting.

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[amkunder]

This is from the RAVE DR5 paper -- a table with cluster parameters, including ages from Kharchenko et al 2013. This is from a sample of ~70 RAVE stars in various clusters that have also been studied externally from high-resolution spectroscopy, so they have high-res spectroscopic logg , Teff and Fe/H. The advantage of overlap RAVE+external studies is that a quantitative comparison of the RAVE stellar parameters can be made pretty easily. But there are not as many stars if you limit the sample to only those stars with external studies. I'm happy to send you this sample as well, if you think it would be useful?

Regarding GCs, let me see what I have.

[amkunder]

NGC 6752, 10 cluster stars, where they should be bona fide members since they were were selected from the proper motion catalog of Zloczewski et al. 2012, AcA, 62, 357 47 Tuc, 23 cluster stars, cross-matched from other studies, since selecting 47 tuc members is a mess. omega cen, 15 cluster stars, cross-matched from Johnson & Pilachowski 2010, , since selecting om cen members is a mess. NGC 6752

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proper motion member, but discrepant rad velocity, so probably not cluster members

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[andycasey]

It's getting late now to keep messing with training sets, so I am re-scoping (and re-naming) this issue to have validation figures of cluster HRDs that include these members, so we can just validate that we have done things OK. If we had focussed on the main-sequence from an earlier date, including these stars in the training set would have been the right thing to do!