aecay
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11 years ago I can sort of foresee a situation in which a trace might need to be in phrase-medial position: Greek does a lot of stuff with wh- movement of a possessor without pied-piping the NP, so if the NP had another modifier, like an appositive, it would make sense to put the trace in medial position. but this doesn't happen a lot, so it isn't a case that needs to be accounted for, IMO.
In fact, I'm not sure I think it's necessary to introduce functionality to move traces with a mother node. Or at least it's not functionality I've needed. The toggle between phrase-initial and phrase-final solution seems fine though, if you'd like to have that functionality.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 04:03, Aaron Ecay reply@reply.github.com wrote:
It is possible to move silent categories (traces, comeents, ...) with the usual right-click-to-move operation (IcePaHC annotald doesn't let you do this). But it is not possible to change their position within the same mother node. Sometimes, my tagging script mistakenly puts the trace of wh-movement at the sentence level, when it should be embedded under some constituent. Say that we have this structure and we want to get the NP-trace after the P:
(IP (NP T) (PP (P xxx)) ...)
Since the trace precedes the PP in the original structure, moving it under the PP will cause it to be first. We have to move it from a position after the PP. The hack I use is to move it to some branching node after the PP (creating one if needed), then move it into the PP.
I'm not sure if we should have a way to change the linear order of traces. Maybe if so, we only need to allow toggling between phrase-initial and phrase-final position (would it ever make sense to have a phrase-medial trace?). In any case, I am making this issue to document the problem (/hacky solution) and see what people think about the necessity of finer-grained trace-moving capabilities.
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It is possible to move silent categories (traces, comments, ...) with the usual right-click-to-move operation (IcePaHC annotald doesn't let you do this). But it is not possible to change their position within the same mother node. Sometimes, my tagging script mistakenly puts the trace of wh-movement at the sentence level, when it should be embedded under some constituent. Say that we have this structure and we want to get the NP-trace after the P:
Since the trace precedes the PP in the original structure, moving it under the PP will cause it to be first. We have to move it from a position after the PP. The hack I use is to move it to some branching node after the PP (creating one if needed), then move it into the PP.
I'm not sure if we should have a way to change the linear order of traces. Maybe if so, we only need to allow toggling between phrase-initial and phrase-final position (would it ever make sense to have a phrase-medial trace?). In any case, I am making this issue to document the problem (/hacky solution) and see what people think about the necessity of finer-grained trace-moving capabilities.