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"Comment written by mezzzomix on January 31, 2020 12:08:24:
Hello Antoine and thank you for the post. I think you made a great effort to describe the normal distribution to your readers. However, I strongly disagree with the part towards the end:
"From the output, we see that the p-value > 0.05 implying that the data are not significantly different from a normal distribution. In other words, we can assume the normality."
Not rejecting the null hypothesis does not mean that the alternative hypothesis is true. In order to really "proove" normality, you would have to do an equivalence test and make certain assumptions. The only thing you can show with SW or KS test is that your data indeed does NOT follow a normal distribution.
Best, Ivan
"Comment written by mezzzomix on January 31, 2020 12:08:24:
Hello Antoine and thank you for the post. I think you made a great effort to describe the normal distribution to your readers. However, I strongly disagree with the part towards the end:
"From the output, we see that the p-value > 0.05 implying that the data are not significantly different from a normal distribution. In other words, we can assume the normality."
Not rejecting the null hypothesis does not mean that the alternative hypothesis is true. In order to really "proove" normality, you would have to do an equivalence test and make certain assumptions. The only thing you can show with SW or KS test is that your data indeed does NOT follow a normal distribution.
Best, Ivan
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on January 31, 2020 13:26:22:
Dear Ivan,
Thanks a lot for your remark. You are completely right, not rejecting the null hypothesis does not mean that the null hypothesis is true (I guess you meant null hypothesis and not alternative hypothesis in your comment).
I was a bit too quick when writing that part. I edited the article according to your comment. Thanks again!
Regards,
Antoine
Comment written by Duleep Samuel on February 01, 2020 01:32:14:
Lovely write-up. Thanks
Comment written by Duleep Samuel on February 01, 2020 01:32:14:
Lovely write-up. Thanks
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on February 01, 2020 06:02:18:
Glad you liked it Samuel!
Comment written by SFdisqus on February 04, 2020 18:43:38:
Excellent post, Antoine! Mainly, because it's so clearly written with easy step by step R examples. I really learned a lot from your post... Merci / Dank Je / Thanks!
PS: It would be really nice if you could write a post on how to determine the distribution of a specific dataset. Is the data distribution: Normal? Poisson? Gamma?, etc. Never found an easy, practical and clear way how to do that in R...
Antoine, maybe you can try your magic touch on this topic... :-)
Comment written by SFdisqus on February 04, 2020 18:43:38:
Excellent post, Antoine! Mainly, because it's so clearly written with easy step by step R examples. I really learned a lot from your post... Merci / Dank Je / Thanks!
PS: It would be really nice if you could write a post on how to determine the distribution of a specific dataset. Is the data distribution: Normal? Poisson? Gamma?, etc. Never found an easy, practical and clear way how to do that in R...
Antoine, maybe you can try your magic touch on this topic... :-)
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on February 04, 2020 19:25:48:
Glad you liked it!
I take note of your request about the other distributions.
Comment written by SFdisqus on February 04, 2020 18:43:38: Excellent post, Antoine! Mainly, because it's so clearly written with easy step by step R examples. I really learned a lot from your post... Merci / Dank Je / Thanks! PS: It would be really nice if you could write a post on how to determine the distribution of a specific dataset. Is the data distribution: Normal? Poisson? Gamma?, etc. Never found an easy, practical and clear way how to do that in R... Antoine, maybe you can try your magic touch on this topic... :-)
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on February 04, 2020 19:25:48:
Glad you liked it!
I take note of your request about the other distributions.
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on May 14, 2020 06:42:23:
Hello,
For your information I just published an article that may be of interest to you. In this section, I show how to test whether your data follows a binomial distribution. This example can easily be adapted to other distributions as Poisson, etc.
Feel free to let me know if you have any questions!
Comment written by vijayarajamanickam on December 17, 2020 12:17:05:
Dear Antoine, It really a informative post...Thank you so much..
It would be really helpful, if you write a post on log transformation of data or any other transformation. Because some Data (350 individual) is not following the normal distribution.
kind regards
vijay
Comment written by vijayarajamanickam on December 17, 2020 12:17:05:
Dear Antoine, It really a informative post...Thank you so much..
It would be really helpful, if you write a post on log transformation of data or any other transformation. Because some Data (350 individual) is not following the normal distribution.
kind regards vijay
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on December 17, 2020 22:04:02:
Dear Vijay,
Thanks for the suggestion, it's now on my to do list (but don"t expect it soon because I have a lot of work at the moment).
A sample of 350 is large so increasing the sample size will probably not make your data more normal. What I can already suggest if your data is not following a normal distribution is to try to:
Also, keep in mind that for some analyses such as independent and dependent sample t-tests, ANOVA and regressions), deviations from normality are not always an issue for validity. As long as the sample size exceeds 30, Stevens (2016) showed that there is not usually too much of an impact to validity from non-normal data.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Antoine
Comment written by vijayarajamanickam on December 17, 2020 12:17:05: Dear Antoine, It really a informative post...Thank you so much.. It would be really helpful, if you write a post on log transformation of data or any other transformation. Because some Data (350 individual) is not following the normal distribution. kind regards vijay
Comment written by Antoine Soetewey on December 17, 2020 22:04:02:
Dear Vijay,
Thanks for the suggestion, it's now on my to do list (but don"t expect it soon because I have a lot of work at the moment).
A sample of 350 is large so increasing the sample size will probably not make your data more normal. What I can already suggest if your data is not following a normal distribution is to try to:
- apply a transformation such as the logarithm, square root, Box-Cox or Yeo-Johnson
- remove outliers
- use non-parametric tests
Also, keep in mind that for some analyses such as independent and dependent sample t-tests, ANOVA and regressions), deviations from normality are not always an issue for validity. As long as the sample size exceeds 30, Stevens (2016) showed that there is not usually too much of an impact to validity from non-normal data.
Hope this helps.
Regards, Antoine
Comment written by vijayarajamanickam on December 18, 2020 10:31:53:
Thank you so much for you quick response It really helpful..
regards
Vijay
Do my data follow a normal distribution? A note on the most widely used distribution and how to test for normality in R - Stats and R
This article explains in details what is the normal or Gaussian distribution, its importance in statistics and how to test if your data is normally distributed
https://statsandr.com/blog/do-my-data-follow-a-normal-distribution-a-note-on-the-most-widely-used-distribution-and-how-to-test-for-normality-in-r/