Closed Jegelewicz closed 2 years ago
I am incredibly hesitant to require anything other than the name itself. I'd be happy to reconsider if we had a solution for what happens when eg, we get a {pick something new} collection with a few tens of thousands of new names.
It's also not at all clear to me what a source is. Source of the name, the classification (in which case it should not longer be eg, ITIS once we change something), something else, ???
http://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=CTTAXON_TERM
Our committee thought it would be helpful to require a source authority - or at least require the creator to consciously override and create the taxon without a source authority. It's a free-form field, so it can be a source like WoRMS or ITIS or a reputable website etc. We also think requiring (or strongly encouraging) the author would help with ambiguous taxa that can be in multiple orders or even kingdoms. At the least, can the form preload the fields Source Authority and Author the same way it preloads nomenclatural code even if they aren't in red and mandatory.
It's also not at all clear to me what a source is. Source of the name, the classification (in which case it should not longer be eg, ITIS once we change something), something else, ???
http://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=CTTAXON_TERM
See updated code table definition.
Gotcha. I'm fine with that - I wouldn't use that form if I had to create 20K starfish or something so I don't think that'll be a problem from my POV.
1) Shall we go required (in the form) or just "strongly suggested"? 2) Can we figure out documentation - if we're going to require something we should probably be able to clearly define it. 3) https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/1698 (Pretty please?)
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Gotcha. I'm fine with that - I wouldn't use that form if I had to create 20K starfish or something so I don't think that'll be a problem from my POV.
- Shall we go required (in the form) or just "strongly suggested"?
- Can we figure out documentation - if we're going to require something we should probably be able to clearly define it.
1698 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/1698 (Pretty
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There are no model changes that I'm aware of being proposed anywhere - this is all form.
Shall we do whatever we do to the form to the classification bulkloader (and so indirectly to the hierarchical editor) as well?
I like required as well and if we could somehow formalize the "date accessed" and even add a link to the resource if available that would make my day.
I changed the definition in the code table to:
Source of the taxonomic classification. Recommended sources include WoRMS, The Reptile Database, ITIS, FishBase, AlgaeBase, Paleobiology Database. Other sources are allowed. Please be specific and add the date the source was accessed in YYYY-MM-DD format if possible.
Shall we do whatever we do to the form to the classification bulkloader (and so indirectly to the hierarchical editor) as well?
Oh thaaaat - yes.
In order to (hopefully) entice those entering new classifications, we would like the following to DISPLAY the first time a classification is created (and perhaps also any time someone chooses to edit Non_Classification Terms).
With the terms VISIBLE, it would be far more likely that someone would complete them.
I would vote for them all to be REQUIRED, anyone else think so?
I support that they display always and be required to save.
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In order to (hopefully) entice those entering new classifications, we would like the following to DISPLAY the first time a classification is created (and perhaps also any time someone chooses to edit Non_Classification Terms).
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With the terms VISIBLE, it would be far more likely that someone would complete them.
I would vote for them all to be REQUIRED, anyone else think so?
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related: #1816
@ArctosDB/taxonomy requests that the following DISPLAY the first time a classification is created (and perhaps also any time someone chooses to edit Non_Classification Terms).
With the terms VISIBLE, it would be far more likely that someone would complete them.
So this is sort of implemented?
Can we eliminate the blank lines and make sure that "source authority" shows up?
Why not list all eight items in the menu? Then delete any left blank.
What is "preferred name"? If it's the preferred synonym aren't we asking for inconsistency since synonyms are on a different screen? Or does this relate to the agent managing the taxon?
And while we're about it, it's time to delete the suggestion to add the "display name" since we've already said that it's auto generated.
May not matter if #1852 happens
And while we're about it, it's time to delete the suggestion to add the "display name" since we've already said that it's auto generated.
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My limited skills did not allow me to accomplish this when revamping the taxonomy pages. I would like to have this done, because right now we just get 10 blank spaces.
populate the default new classification form with noclass terms, ignore if type isn't supplied
https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2926#issuecomment-996824693 makes this irrelevant; closing.
From Taxonomy Committee Meeting 2018-10-24
It would be very helpful for anyone looking at taxa to know from where the information was derived. The Committee suggests that this field be required when creating any classification.
However, in the illustration above, the actual authority is ITIS and we also believe that the date is important and should be required as well. Finally, a link to the source (if available) would be a good addition to this information.