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Problem Formations need clean-up #2975

Closed Jegelewicz closed 3 years ago

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

I am going to use this issue to list problematic formations as I work to clean up the lithostratigraphic_formation code table.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Changed to Bed - awaiting removal of formation on https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-875994120 Bafunzawa Formation

The only mention of this I can find anywhere is in here. Where it is referred to as "Bafunzawa coal-bearing member". Suggest this be moved to the lithostratigraphic_member code table

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Deleted Basalt and Red Beds

I cannot find any documentation for this term and it is not being used. Suggest delete.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Delete and move to geology remark - https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/3721 Blue Gray Clay Formation

I cannot find any documentation for this term. @mbprondzinski it is in use by ALMNH - do you have any documentation for it?

See: https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-666594913 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667142636 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667187463 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667187899 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667210816 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667217976 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667222159 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-667572385

mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Hmm, let me look.

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Blue Gray Clay Formation

I cannot find any documentation for this term. @mbprondzinskihttps://github.com/mbprondzinski it is in use by ALMNH - do you have any documentation for it?

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Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Corrected Blue Mountain Series Formation

The actual name, according to Macrostrat is Blue Mountain Formation. It is in use by one locality. I tried removing it from the locality so that I could update the name in the code table, but I ended up with this error:

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@dustymc can you help me out?

dustymc commented 4 years ago

function rebuild, confirmed by editing locality 10907390

mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Can you give me a catalogue record where blue gray clay formation is used?

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

@mbprondzinski here is one https://arctos.database.museum/guid/ALMNH:ES:90

But there are a whole bunch of them - a lot in the Bogue chitto creek localities.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Briones Formation

Should be Briones Sandstone Formation according to Macrostrat. Removed from two localities, updated and added back.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Byoritsu Formation

I can find a few references: https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/0339/report.pdf https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/pjab1912/6/8/6_8_313/_pdf

However, there is nothing here, which seems like a really good resource for strata in Japan.

Unsure what to do with this.

See https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-666525587

Added Byoritsu Beds, updated locality to use this attribute and deleted Byoritsu Formation.

There is only one locality using this term - and oddly it is in South America, so not sure it makes a lot of sense?

includes

According to Macneil, this is from Goko, Formosa. From the Tusyo ss which is the uppermost Byoritsu Fm. According to the Lexicon Stratigraphique, the Byoritsu Fm is a local name for the Miaoli Fm. The Lexicon also says that the Tusyo ss is a separate unit unconnected with the Miaoli, or rather, it implies this is the face that no mention is made of the Tusyo ss as a member of any other formation.

Annotated the record - I think Higher Geography is incorrect.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Caballerro Formation A misspelling of Caballero Formation. Changed localities where it was used to Caballero Formation and deleted.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Carlile Formation

Per Macrostrat, it appears that the most prevalent term for this formation is [Carlile Shale Formation](Carlile Shale Formation). Should we change our term?

@Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS NMMNH:Paleo is using this a lot. What are your thoughts?

See https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-666510174 https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-666527302

Added Carlile Shale Formation, changed all Carlile Formation to Carlile Shale Formation and deleted Carlile Formation

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Chekhov Formation

I cannot find any documentation for this term. It is in use by UAM:ES.

See https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-666513106

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

Carlile Formation

Yes, we should update to Carlile Shale Formation

edit: Geolex agrees https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/Geolex/Units/Carlile_6965.html

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago
Carlile Formation

Yes, we should update to Carlile Shale Formation

edit: Geolex agrees https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/Geolex/Units/Carlile_6965.html

@dustymc can you do this for me? I cannot change because the term is in use.

Carlile Formation change to Carlile Shale Formation.

dustymc commented 4 years ago

Not safely. Add the new, I can update the data, then you can delete the old.

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

Chekhov Formation

Here is the most recent article I could find that is both accessible and in English (p. 273). https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1046/j.1440-1738.1998.00174.x

The most recent reference I found was a 2018 Russian paper.

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

Byoritsu Formation

Everything I'm finding calls it a bed and places it in Taiwan, which would explain why it doesn't show up in the database for Japan.

Also, from Geological Formation Names of China (1866—2000) image

I would change it to bed and use https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/pjab1912/6/8/6_8_313/_pdf as the reference.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

@dustymc Carlile Shale Formation added.

dustymc commented 4 years ago
update locality_attributes set attribute_value='Carlile Shale Formation' where attribute_value='Carlile Formation';

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mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

I'm still working on Blue Gray clay formation. It appears to be in Dallas County, but the site F-23 may have more information in Curran's field notes. I will be in the office tomorrow and I will see if I can find something in his thesis. I've got a couple of Geologists working on this as well.

mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Blue Gray Clay Formation

I cannot find any documentation for this term. @mbprondzinski it is in use by ALMNH - do you have any documentation for it?

Okay, here are two options: "site identifier = Quaternary alluvium" and "informal chronostratigraphy = blue gray clay (formation)" No one could come up with a formal formation and Curren's thesis offered little help. What would you suggest?

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

The term isn't chronostratigraphy, so I don't think we should add it to the informal chronostratigraphy table. I honestly think that "Blue Gray Clay is just descriptive of the layer which also doesn't seem like a site identifier, but something that should go in the remark of whatever chronostratigraphy is given. @Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS what are your thoughts on this?

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

"site identifier = Quaternary alluvium" and "informal chronostratigraphy = blue gray clay (formation)"

site identifier is for any locality identifiers (another name, a field number, etc) other than locality_name, assigned to the site. Informal chronostratigraphy is for chronostrat used in the literature that is not in https://stratigraphy.org/icschart/ChronostratChart2020-01.pdf. Formations are lithostratigraphy.

I suggest System/Period; Quaternary with the rest (alluvium, "Blue Gray Clay Formation") in verbatim locality.

We need to work on documentation for the new locality attributes

edit: I think putting in System/Period remark would also be fine.

mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Maybe it’s not to you and me, but obviously it’s been used as a formation description here in Alabama.

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The term isn't chronostratigraphy, so I don't think we should add it to the informal chronostratigraphy table. I honestly think that "Blue Gray Clay is just descriptive of the layer which also doesn't seem like a site identifier, but something that should go in the remark of whatever chronostratigraphy is given. @Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHShttps://github.com/Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS what are your thoughts on this?

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mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Then create a term “informal lithostratigraphy.”

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"site identifier = Quaternary alluvium" and "informal chronostratigraphy = blue gray clay (formation)"

site identifier is for any locality identifiers (another name, a field number, etc) other than locality_name, assigned to the site. Informal chronostratigraphy is for chronostrat used in the literature that is not in https://stratigraphy.org/icschart/ChronostratChart2020-01.pdf. Formations are lithostratigraphy.

I suggest System/Period; Quaternary with the rest (alluvium, "Blue Gray Shale Formation") in verbatim locality.

We need to work on documentation for the new locality attributes

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Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

Then create a term “informal lithostratigraphy.”

The only reason we have informal chronostratigraphy is that our chronostratigraphy tables are limited to what is in the international chronostratigraphic chart. Even units that we put in the informal lithostratigraphy table have to have documentation.

Do you have documentation for Blue Gray Clay Formation? A quick search in google scholar pulls up nothing for me.

mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Okay, so I asked if there was a reference to the "blue-gray clay formation" in Jim Lacefield's book, "Lost Worlds in Alabama Rocks" and again no formal referred name. So do what you want with it. There are close to 400 records with that formation listed in our database. Also, the Chilatchee Creek, Site F-23, appears to be in Dallas County, but it is listed as being in Wilcox County in Curran's thesis. There is no county entered in the records, but the USGS website says it is in Dallas County (very close to the Wilcox county border). Should we add the county and which one???

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

@mbprondzinski I can't get to this until late on Monday, but I will work up a possible solution and get back to you!

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Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Okay, so I asked if there was a reference to the "blue-gray clay formation" in Jim Lacefield's book, "Lost Worlds in Alabama Rocks" and again no formal referred name. So do what you want with it. There are close to 400 records with that formation listed in our database.

I think that perhaps we need a new locality attribute, which I will suggest in a new issue.

the Chilatchee Creek, Site F-23, appears to be in Dallas County, but it is listed as being in Wilcox County in Curran's thesis. There is no county entered in the records, but the USGS website says it is in Dallas County (very close to the Wilcox county border). Should we add the county and which one???

I think there are two possible solutions to this.

  1. We could add this information to the current locality in the remarks.
  2. We could add Dallas County to the current locality AND create a second event with the locality placed in Wilcox County.

I prefer the second because it narrows the locality down to two counties instead of the entire state of Alabama and it means that the specimens will show up in both a search for Dallas County and a search for Wilcox County. This also allows us to say "Curran said Wilcox County" and "USGS says Dallas County".

@mbprondzinski I have set up the records in locality F-23 with the second option - let me know if that works for you!

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mbprondzinski commented 4 years ago

Yes, I would agree that the second option makes it less ambiguous and easier to find. Thanks, I would never have thought of that!


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Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Elk River Beds Formation

The Elk River Formation exists, but there are no Elk River Beds. Only one locality is using the attribute - removed it, changed the name to Elk River Formation and re-added with Elk River Beds Formation in attribute remark.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Fairbanks Basalt

Seems like just a descriptive term, I can find no mention of it as an actual formation but as a type of rock in some formations: https://mrdata.usgs.gov/sim3340/show-sim3340.php?seq=C004&src=LG002_230

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

This is the only reference I found, and it also does not treat them as a formal unit. PALEOMAGNETISM OF THE FAIRBANKS BASALTS, INTERIOR ALASKA

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Jack Limestone

I can't find anything on this - in use by one UAM locality.

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

I assume the locality is in Alaska?

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

yup image

Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 4 years ago

referenced on page 73 here: https://scholarworks.alaska.edu/bitstream/handle/11122/9243/Packer_D_1972.pdf?sequence=1

which led me to this map where the Jack Limestone is mapped: https://ngmdb.usgs.gov/Prodesc/proddesc_53044.htm

Base on the map, I would leave it in there.

Jegelewicz commented 4 years ago

Complete Kultheith Formation

Might be a thing? Mentioned in some papers, but can't find one that creates it.

See https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-703032281 Added link to code table.

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lehman Limestone Formation

Only one locality (NMMNH 7426) uses this. I can find evidence for a Lehman Limestone in Nevada and Utah, but not in NY. @Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS suggestions? See https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/2975#issuecomment-700777239

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lisburne Limestone

I can find Lisburne Group, but not Lisburne Limestone Formation. Term not in use, deleted

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lower Chalk Formation

No support found. Term not in use, deleted.

mbprondzinski commented 3 years ago

Are any of these in record remarks? Just curious...

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lower Poul Creek

Poul Creek Formation exists in code table. Term not in use, deleted.

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Are any of these in record remarks? Just curious...

If they are in remarks, then they are still there! I am only searching the lithostratigraphic formation terms from the code table, which I am attempting to get cleaned up.

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lower Yakataga Formation

Yakataga Formation exists in code table. Term not in use, deleted.

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lower Portland Formation

"Lower" belongs in remarks. One NMMNH locality changed to "Portland Formation" with "lower" in remark and term deleted.

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

Complete Lutetian Limestone

Lutetian is a Stage/Age. Only one locality using the attribute. @sharpphyl I added the Stage/Age Lutetian to that locality and removed this formation. The deleted if from the code table.