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Merge Pinnacles National Park and Pinnacles National Monument? #3503

Closed dustymc closed 2 years ago

dustymc commented 3 years ago

Goal

From @jrdemboski

In the drop-down menu for Identifiers, can we change Pinnacle National Monument to Pinnacle National Park?

https://www.nps.gov/pinn/index.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacles_National_Park

they became a park in 2013 (after being a monument)

Context

We've kept those separate in the past, but I think where the park and the monument are different things. This seems to be a change, where the monument became the park.

We probably need a ...Park value, I'm not sure if it should be merged with ...Monument or not.

Table

https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctcoll_other_id_type&field=Pinnacles%20National%20Monument

Value

Pinnacles National Park

Definition

Needed, specifics depend on whether we merge or add.

Other ID BaseURL

none

jrdemboski commented 3 years ago

Pinnacles wants us to use Pinnacles National Park for their associated Accession and Catalog numbers, hence the request to change it in the Identifiers drop-down menu

John

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Goal

From @jrdemboskihttps://github.com/jrdemboski

In the drop-down menu for Identifiers, can we change Pinnacle National Monument to Pinnacle National Park?

https://www.nps.gov/pinn/index.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacles_National_Park

they became a park in 2013 (after being a monument)

Context

We've kept those separate in the past, but I think where the park and the monument are different things. This seems to be a change, where the monument became the park.

We probably need a ...Park value, I'm not sure if it should be merged with ...Monument or not.

Table

https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctcoll_other_id_type&field=Pinnacles%20National%20Monument

Value

Pinnacles National Park

Definition

Needed, specifics depend on whether we merge or add.

Other ID BaseURL

none

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Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

We probably need a ...Park value, I'm not sure if it should be merged with ...Monument or not.

I suggest we add the Park value but leave the Monument for now - we may eventually want to know if stuff was actually collected in the Monument vs. the Park. You may want to track that as well. Did they ask you to make this change retroactively or just going forward?

dustymc commented 3 years ago

add the Park value but leave the Monument

Certainly works for me; the first step will be adding, no matter what end result we're aiming for.

@atrox10 you have some of these - thoughts?

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago

I added the other ID to the code table, however, there are a few other issues:

In Agents, we have Pinnacles National Park which references the name change, but I think we should have both with a relationship between them?

In Features (locality) we also have Pinnacles National Park, but not the national monument - does it matter?

dustymc commented 3 years ago

Agents

"Change" suggests we don't need two. If they're different administrative entities (eg that we have to report to) then maybe we do.

Features

(geography) - don't care until someone with relevant data convinces us we need to.

Jegelewicz commented 3 years ago 
Agents

"Change" suggests we don't need two. If they're different administrative entities (eg that we have to report to) then maybe we do.

Kinda what I thought - I added "Pinnacles National Monument" as an aka to Pinnacles National Park agent.

Features

(geography) - don't care until someone with relevant data convinces us we need to.

Fair enough, just trying to cover the bases.

jrdemboski commented 3 years ago

Thank you!

dustymc commented 3 years ago

Can these be merged or should they remain distinct?

atrox10 commented 3 years ago

This has a historical component since Pinnacles National Monument was what it was called from 1908-2013 and then it became a National Park. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinnacles_National_Park So it might be relevant to keep the Monuments agents for permits that were made before it became a park (or whatever is associated with the Monument agent)?

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Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

Keep distinct and provide date information and provide guidance as to which to use.

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

@Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS to check for White Sands

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

Both identifiers are included based upon the fact that identifying numbers may have come from one or the other. Definitions now include reference to each other and the dates applicable as discussed in today's code table committee.