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Meteorite taxonomy plan #4277

Closed Jegelewicz closed 2 years ago

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

I was going to place the meteorite taxon names in with the mineral name types. Meteorite taxonomy often uses codes instead of words for names. For instance

CI1 - A carbonaceous chondrite of the CI group that is petrologic type 1. https://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbullclass.php?sea=CI1

I cannot create the name CI1 (and by the way that is capital c capital i 1) because I am not allowed two capital letters in a mineral taxon name. Can we relax that trigger for minerals or create a new name type "meteorite" with the relaxed triggers?

I am trying to get some data in for the UNM meteoritic collection.

dustymc commented 2 years ago

It's now allowing 2 uppercase characters followed by an integer for mineral taxonomy.

or create a new name type

I think that's worthy of discussion. Losing the distinction between taxonomy (formal stuff) and identifications (how that formal stuff gets applied to individuals) would be a loss of functionality, and I'm not sure that distinction really exists in "non-Linnean" codes, "assigned by the database editor" is pretty explicitly stuff someone made up outside of any formal process, and I have no idea how we should be treating that.

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

@Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS @beth3ha now that I have the list of meteorite taxa, I am wondering if we should create a new name type = meteorite. This would make it easy to get all of the meteorite names whereas if I add them as type = mineral, they will be mixed in with the mineral names and we would need something else to tease them out. What do you guys think?

beth3ha commented 2 years ago

It sounds like creating a new type would be most beneficial. I second the motion.

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Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS commented 2 years ago

I'd definitely willing to be persuaded, but just looking at the taxon types now, they are very, very broad categories: https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=cttaxon_name_type, and it seems to me there ought to be some other way meteorite names could be extracted.

Mineral type taxa are currently very diverse encompassing rocks as well and includes multiple different types of classification systems.

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

I think a brief meetup would be good - let's talk about this at the next code table meeting. - I'll send an invite to @beth3ha

beth3ha commented 2 years ago

Yesterday was a snow day for UNM. I am available today or next week starting in Tuesday.

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beth3ha commented 2 years ago

Oh! I just realized you invited me to a meeting on a Thursday in two weeks. My apologies. I am not following my "no email before coffee" policy.

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

@beth3ha Lol - can you make that one?

beth3ha commented 2 years ago

Yeah! I've accepted the invitation.

Jegelewicz commented 2 years ago

Beth and Nicole are good with using mineral names and make sure meteorite is in all of the classifications.