Closed campmlc closed 1 year ago
The definition does not apply to the requested term. Do we actually need fungi: Coccidioidess
or should the definition be revised?
Some data would be really useful to determine the appropriateness of the terms.
From conversation with researcher in March:
Can these attributes also be connected with the tissue that was tested? I know of other groups who have variable testing results by tissue type.
UGH - this really makes me think these should be part attributes, but I guess we have crossed that bridge...
As for my comment above - I think there was just a misspelling in the request that you have fixed?
Yes and yes. They should always have been part attributes, but some collections didn't have the loans tracked to the part to be able to say which part was tested, so this was a compromise. At MSB, we do have data at the part and container level, so part attributes would have been ideal.
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Can these attributes also be connected with the tissue that was tested? I know of other groups who have variable testing results by tissue type.
UGH - this really makes me think these should be part attributes, but I guess we have crossed that bridge...
As for my comment above https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/6267#issuecomment-1542291455
- I think there was just a misspelling in the request that you have fixed?
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some collections didn't have the loans tracked to the part
Would you care to provide an example of this?
some collections didn't have the loans tracked to the part to be able to say which part was tested,
That could be a great use for a part = unknown?
This was raised during group discussions - @ccicero said it wouldn't work for MVZ.
There were other respondents at the same meeting who agreed. And given the current data structure uses attributes, it was decided to use what we already had.
current
I believe Carla's concerns will be addressed in https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/issues/6171, which has been repeatedly blocked.
Agree. The ability to load parts with four attributes should make this more accessible. Still, I would bet that within a year there are more than four "necessary" part attributes and the solution will be bulkloading parts separately. This really is no big deal and if we want all of this complex data, we will have to accept the fact that it doesn't come easy!
We do not have another parasite/pathology meeting scheduled - perhaps we should schedule one?
I don't think changing directions to switch to part attributes from record attributes at this late stage in the game is a viable model. We've had multiple meetings, and this is what the community agreed upon. It was not my choice, but more importantly, it will work until we can build something better. I need these data fields populated to present to the parasitology meetings in July. @jldunnum needed these data 6 months ago for a time-constrained project.
I support continuing to have pathology meetings. There was one yesterday, and no one showed, so that is why I have moved forward with these issues. We need them resolved as soon as possible.
no one showed
That is not true.
I joined the zoom meeting in the calendar invite and stayed on for 15 minutes with no one there. Was there a different zoom?
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no one showed
That is not true.
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Regardless, there is no record of the discussion in the chat and no comments on the github issues other than mine or some "blocked" by another issue, so I assume none of these were resolved during the meeting.
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I joined the zoom meeting in the calendar invite and stayed on for 15 minutes with no one there. Was there a different zoom?
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The only thing in chat were links to the agenda and the github project, so I didn't copy it. And yes, nothing was really resolved in the meeting.
Attendees will review. We gave them a half hour to do so!
We discussed the not examined for request but as there were so few people in attendance, I just asked everyone to review the open issues (a lot were opened after the meeting!).
I joined the zoom meeting in the calendar invite and stayed on for 15 minutes with no one there. Was there a different zoom?
I don't know what happened to the link, but the one in the calendar is correct and it is the same link I use for all of the zoom meetings. I'm sorry that something happened with the link and if you can figure out what it was, I am happy to fix whatever the problem is!
Re-uping original request in priority. I have data from a researcher that needs to be added, and this needs to be used in a presentation.
Nevermind - appears to have been added to table? Closing
Initial Request Add the term "fungi: Coccidioides" to the Examined_Detected code table to aid in the migration of legacy data.
_Proposed Value: fungi: Coccidioides
_Proposed Definition: Coccidioides is a genus of dimorphic ascomycete fungi in the family Onygenaceae. Member species are the cause of coccidioidomycosis, also known as San Joaquin Valley fever, an infectious fungal disease largely confined to the Western Hemisphere and endemic in the Southwestern United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioides
_Context: This is a new attribute value to capture current research results and pathogen studies using museum specimens. Data are available in publications referencing voucher specimens.
_Table: https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctexamined_detected
_Priority: High
_Available for Public View: Yes
Project: Add the issue to the Code Table Management Project.
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