Closed WaigePilson closed 3 months ago
:+1: from me
I'm not at all clear how this lines up with https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mTWY6HRlC3TSrAb38W2HOQHiVO2F1tA1m5jaLstYMS8/edit#heading=h.w0tvdqpqd23q, or if that's still the direction we want to lean (seems a few decisions have gone the other way after that was discussed!). If we're trying to push flipper and hand and paw and .... into limb (are we? I'm lost there too!) then should this be - uhh, leaf? (And a modifier?)
Is there an ontology/authority/some sort of big-picture guidance for this sort of thing?
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I'm not at all clear how this lines up with https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mTWY6HRlC3TSrAb38W2HOQHiVO2F1tA1m5jaLstYMS8/edit#heading=h.w0tvdqpqd23q, or if that's still the direction we want to lean (seems a few decisions have gone the other way after that was discussed!). If we're trying to push flipper and hand and paw and .... into limb (are we? I'm lost there too!) then should this be - uhh, leaf? (And a modifier?)
I'm fine with us moving "rhizome" as a part_modifier (of part "root") and then putting "bulb" as another part_modifier. However, so long as "rhizome" is a part name, I think that "bulb" should also be for the sake of consistency.
I've got no strong preference, I just need this added so I can import my collection!
Is there an ontology/authority/some sort of big-picture guidance for this sort of thing?
great question! I don't know of one off the top of my head, perhaps a modern botanist would have a better idea...
I'm not sure I have much of a preference either, other than wishing I had some [yep | nope ] that [ is | ain't ] a part
formula...
guid_prefix | count
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NMMNH:Paleo | 2
@Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS any preferences/direction/whatever here?
I'm not at all clear how this lines up with https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mTWY6HRlC3TSrAb38W2HOQHiVO2F1tA1m5jaLstYMS8/edit#heading=h.w0tvdqpqd23q, or if that's still the direction we want to lean (seems a few decisions have gone the other way after that was discussed!). If we're trying to push flipper and hand and paw and .... into limb (are we? I'm lost there too!) then should this be - uhh, leaf? (And a modifier?)
I'm fine with us moving "rhizome" as a part_modifier (of part "root") and then putting "bulb" as another part_modifier. However, so long as "rhizome" is a part name, I think that "bulb" should also be for the sake of consistency.
I think this if you're ok with this where root has part_modifiers of rhizome
and bulb
then this would best fit the overall goals and inclinations of the Arctos CT
I've got no strong preference, I just need this added so I can import my collection!
Agreed! you just need to get to work!
If we could get input from affected collections (@Nicole-Ridgwell-NMMNHS )?
Above indicates this isn't a root?
[Inferred is_a relation] BFO:0000002 continuant [Inferred is_a relation] BFO:0000001 entity [Inferred is_a relation] BFO:0000004 independent continuant [Inferred is_a relation] BFO:0000040 material entity [Inferred is_a relation] PO:0025131 plant anatomical entity [Inferred is_a relation] PO:0009011 plant structure [Inferred is_a relation] PO:0025497 collective plant structure [Inferred is_a relation] PO:0025007 collective plant organ structure [is_a relation] PO:0009006 shoot system [Current term] PO:0025356 bulb
Bulbs are underground stems modified to store resources. . But there is a big difference between a bulb and an aboveground stem from a host of biological and management perspectives. Perhaps this should be its own term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulb
The issue with rhizome and bulb is that there is not an good "higher level" part that could be used. I think bulb should be its own term.
Agree. I checked a box.
CT committee discussed and we agree that we should add bulb-- it does not create problems overall and will allow cataloging to move forward.
See https://github.com/ArctosDB/arctos/discussions/7737, would very much like big-picture guidance.
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Goal
Add "bulb" as a part name
Context
Currently, the part names table contains just a handful of terms appropriate for describing plant parts: branch, bud, cone, flower, fruit, gall, leaf, pollen, rhizolith, rhizome, root, seed, spore, stem, and whole organism.
Similar to a rhizome, a bulb is a modified underground stem, in this case with modified leaves used for food storage. It would be appropriate to add bulb as another modified underground stem.
Table
https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctspecimen_part_name
Proposed Value
bulb
Proposed Definition
A modified subterranean plant stem usually consisting of a relatively large, usually globe-shaped structure of modified stem and fleshy leaves that functions as food storage organs during dormancy.
Priority
High, needed for importing of some UBWM:PB records
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