Closed WaigePilson closed 2 months ago
See also issue #7806
I'm open to changing the wording here. I struggled with how to phrase a "part modifier" of "part"...
I support this, we have over a thousand specimens with part/counterpart currently in remarks.
The comma in the term will find a way to break something.
Are there external authority/ies to which we could link? An ontology would be great, something like wikipedia might be useful.
suggest instead
counterpart to part
(opposite would be part to counterpart)
@WaigePilson will that work for you?
suggest instead
counterpart to part
This would work for me, although I have a minor concern that something this simple will be confusing to non-paleobotanists. As in, I can see some mammalology collections manager reading "counterpart to part" and not understanding that this is a specific and widely used term in fossil collections. But there will be the description in the code table, so maybe I should just trust that folks will understand from that what this means!
Are there external authority/ies to which we could link? An ontology would be great, something like wikipedia might be useful.
Good question! I can't think of anything off the top of my head. This isn't a formalized term, so I don't know of any "authorities" who would define/control this vocabulary. But it is extensively used in the field. It's like trying to find an "authority" for the term "leaf", although in that case I suppose the botanical community does publish formal definitions and the like.
The best I can come up with is to link to the wikipedia page describing compression fossils: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_fossil#cite_note-Channing2011-5
Will this suffice?
I like the simplicity suggested by your wiki link, can this be
or
I think those would be less likely to confuse me, but any sort of letter-string (preferably without commas) still seems mostly OK too, my checkboxes can stay checked.
And on that note....
there will be the description in the code table
Yes, Arctos kinda never deals in bare terms (which might mean whatever you want them to mean in the moment), controlled values are about always "concepts" (however primitive). Of course it's always nice if the terms are unambiguous, but I also don't think it's necessary to avoid things that might be misused by some hypothetical documentation-averse first-day art collection intern (or anyone else).
part counterpart
I like this idea, but my concern is that then we have a value in the code table "part attribute: modifier" of "part". This seems likely to confuse a lot of non-paleontologists when they're looking at all the available part modifiers and see you can have a "part" modified by the term "part"...
part half
/ counterpart half
???
(Or "part impression" but I think maybe that's not quite true??)
added
@WaigePilson what updates need to be made to the definition of this and the other term?
@Jegelewicz I've updated the definitions here per our discussion in the Code Table meeting yesterday! I think this is ready to implement.
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Goal
Add the term "counterpart, of part-counterpart" to the part modifier tableAdd the term "counterpart to part" to the part modifier table
Context
Fossil plants often preserve as compression/impression fossils where there are two sides of a split rock each with the fossil preserved: we term this a "part and counterpart". Recording whether my two parts of a specimen record are part and counterpart is very important.
I suggest that we add two modifiers
"part, of part-counterpart" and "counterpart, of part-counterpart""counterpart to part" and "part to counterpart" for users to be able to mark the two parts associated with that specimen as the part and counterpart.Table
https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctpart_modifier
Proposed Value
counterpart of part-counterpartcounterpart to part
Proposed Definition
Matching halves of a fossil; two halves of a compression fossil (often with carbon adhering to the part and the impression preserved on the counterpart).One half of a compression fossil. Typically the counterpart is the negative side, preserving an impression of the fossil. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_fossil.
Priority
High, most specimens in my collection have this attribute
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