Open KyndallH opened 4 years ago
Merriam, C. H. (1895). Synopsis of the American shrews of the genus Sorex. North American Fauna, 57-125.
I think that's probably just a new ID using https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=ctnature_of_id&field=revised%20taxonomy and we can expect it to flipflop back and forth every couple decades because taxonomy, but if everyone using us gets on board I could help switch IDs and us could be quarantined (from where it can support search but cannot be used in identifications).
FYI most of https://arctos.database.museum/info/ctDocumentation.cfm?table=cttaxon_relation&field=potential%20alternate%20spelling are similar.
arctosprod@arctos>> select count(*) from taxon_relations where taxon_relationship ='potential alternate spelling';
count
-------
87100
select
identification.scientific_name,
guid_prefix,
count(*)
from
identification inner join identification_taxonomy on identification.identification_id=identification_taxonomy.identification_id
inner join taxon_name on identification_taxonomy.taxon_name_id=taxon_name.taxon_name_id
inner join cataloged_item on identification.collection_object_id=cataloged_item.collection_object_id
inner join collection on cataloged_item.collection_id=collection.collection_id
where
taxon_name.scientific_name like 'Sorex montic%'
group by
identification.scientific_name,
guid_prefix
order by
guid_prefix,
identification.scientific_name
;
scientific_name | guid_prefix | count
--------------------------------+-------------+-------
Sorex monticolus | ASNHC:Mamm | 2
Sorex monticolus | BYU:Mamm | 125
Sorex monticolus | DGR:Mamm | 5
Sorex monticolus | DMNS:Mamm | 295
Sorex monticolus obscurus | DMNS:Mamm | 194
Sorex monticolus | MSB:Host | 1
Sorex monticolus | MSB:Mamm | 3370
Sorex monticolus alascensis | MSB:Mamm | 12
Sorex monticolus bairdi | MSB:Mamm | 1
Sorex monticolus cf. | MSB:Mamm | 81
Sorex monticolus elassodon | MSB:Mamm | 8
Sorex monticolus monticolus | MSB:Mamm | 140
Sorex monticolus neomexicanus | MSB:Mamm | 48
Sorex monticolus obscuroides | MSB:Mamm | 3
Sorex monticolus obscurus | MSB:Mamm | 406
Sorex monticolus shumaginensis | MSB:Mamm | 18
Sorex monticolus | MVZ:Mamm | 19
Sorex monticolus alascensis | MVZ:Mamm | 150
Sorex monticolus elassodon | MVZ:Mamm | 76
Sorex monticolus isolatus | MVZ:Mamm | 31
Sorex monticolus longicauda | MVZ:Mamm | 73
Sorex monticolus longicaudus | MVZ:Mamm | 20
Sorex monticolus malitiosus | MVZ:Mamm | 21
Sorex monticolus mixtus | MVZ:Mamm | 5
Sorex monticolus monticolus | MVZ:Mamm | 35
Sorex monticolus obscurus | MVZ:Mamm | 889
Sorex monticolus setosus | MVZ:Mamm | 132
Sorex monticolus shumaginensis | MVZ:Mamm | 4
Sorex vagrans vagrans | MVZ:Mamm | 5
Sorex monticolus | NMMNH:Mamm | 41
Sorex monticolus | NMU:Mamm | 11
Sorex monticolus | UAM:Mamm | 5338
Sorex monticolus ? | UAM:Mamm | 9
Sorex monticolus | UCM:Mamm | 175
Sorex monticolus alascensis | UCM:Mamm | 3
Sorex monticolus longicauda | UCM:Mamm | 2
Sorex monticolus monticolus | UCM:Mamm | 4
Sorex monticolus obscurus | UCM:Mamm | 129
Sorex monticolus shumaginensis | UCM:Mamm | 15
Sorex monticolus alascensis | UMNH:Mamm | 9
Sorex monticolus obscurus | UMNH:Mamm | 792
Sorex monticolus shumaginensis | UMNH:Mamm | 5
Sorex monticolus | UMZM:Mamm | 219
Sorex monticolus | UTEP:ES | 1
Sorex monticolus cf. | UTEP:ES | 2
Sorex monticolus | UTEP:Mamm | 48
Sorex monticolus | UWBM:Mamm | 2091
Sorex monticolus | UWYMV:Mamm | 1
Sorex monticolus longicaudus | UWYMV:Mamm | 1
Sorex monticolus obscurus | UWYMV:Mamm | 3
Sorex monticolus | WNMU:Mamm | 22
That's a lot of folks to get on board....probably only one or two will even see this issue. I think it will require direct notification to managers of the above collections.
I think the most pragmatic thing for you to do is to add Sorex monticola and move your own collections there if you like, and send an email to all other mammal collection managers. I appreciate you bringing up this issue, but the MVZ may not want to go that way, or we may want to just see what happens over a few years of debate. But, it is now on my list of taxonomic issues to review. MVZ also apparently has Sorex monticolus longicauda and Sorex monticolus longicaudus for us to review.
I agree - make a taxonomy record with the correct spelling (if one doesn't already exist) & then make a relationship under 'edit name & related data' with the incorrect spelling using the 'potential alternative spelling'
This way anytime someone searches on Sorex monticolus to add that name as the ID for their record, Sorex monticola will also appear (and vice versa). If you change S. monticolus to status = invalid that could help encourage & inform users.
Not sure everyone does this but it seems to me the best practice is to create an ID that matches whatever is on the physical label, misspellings and all, and then create a new ID that 'corrects' the original, if needed.
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If you change S. monticolus to status = invalid that could help encourage & inform users.
Yes to this, also add preferred name = Sorex monticola
Not sure everyone does this but it seems to me the best practice is to create an ID that matches whatever is on the physical label, misspellings and all, and then create a new ID that 'corrects' the original, if needed.
Agree, but instead of creating a name for the incorrect spelling, it would be preferable to use the A {string}. So in this case, the identification for the misspelling would be Sorex {Sorex monticolus}.
Hey Kyndall, I think I added it a while back and we are now using it, but left the other spelling because not everyone may be in agreement.
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I looked at the handbook but couldn't find the right way to propose a taxonomic change in Arctos. I don't want to go and change it for everyone but it looks like it does need to be updated and I'm not sure the proper procedure.
_Sorex monticolus should be Sorex monticola.
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Woodman, N. 2018. A Taxonomic Checklist of American Recent Eulipotyphla: Nesophontids, Solenodons, Moles, and Shrews in the New World. Smithsonian Contributions to Zoology 650:i–vi, 1–109, 27 figures (published online 16 November 2018). https://smithsonian.figshare.com/articles/American_Recent_Eulipotyphla_Nesophontids_Solenodons_Moles_and_Shrews_in_the_New_World/9761753
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If you are certain a name shouldn't be used, you can go through the process of quarantining it, but you need to get all collections to correct their specimens before that can happen, if I understand correctly.
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Hey Kyndall, I think I added it a while back and we are now using it, but left the other spelling because not everyone may be in agreement.
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I looked at the handbook but couldn't find the right way to propose a taxonomic change in Arctos. I don't want to go and change it for everyone but it looks like it does need to be updated and I'm not sure the proper procedure.
_Sorex monticolus should be Sorex monticola.
[Screen Shot 2020-08-17 at 4 02 40 PM]< https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/16887896/90456097-73c88180-e0a4-11ea-9940-93d5db9bfd71.png
Woodman, N. 2018. A Taxonomic Checklist of American Recent Eulipotyphla: Nesophontids, Solenodons, Moles, and Shrews in the New World. Smithsonian Contributions to Zoology 650:i–vi, 1–109, 27 figures (published online 16 November 2018).
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This need documentation, including
I looked at the handbook but couldn't find the right way to propose a taxonomic change in Arctos. I don't want to go and change it for everyone but it looks like it does need to be updated and I'm not sure the proper procedure.
_Sorex monticolus should be Sorex monticola.
Woodman, N. 2018. A Taxonomic Checklist of American Recent Eulipotyphla: Nesophontids, Solenodons, Moles, and Shrews in the New World. Smithsonian Contributions to Zoology 650:i–vi, 1–109, 27 figures (published online 16 November 2018). https://smithsonian.figshare.com/articles/American_Recent_Eulipotyphla_Nesophontids_Solenodons_Moles_and_Shrews_in_the_New_World/9761753