adding ID when a new name is just made in taxonomy is wonky

[DerekSikes]

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Describe the bug A clear and concise description of what the bug is.

Try to add an identification (eg Mimumesa mixta) to a record but the name isn't in taxonomy so...

First make the name in taxonomy: https://arctos.database.museum/name/Mimumesa%20mixta

then return to the record and try to add "Mimumesa mixta" but nothing is found.... however, if I leave off the last letter:

Mimumesa mixt

then it finds the record.

Expected behavior A clear and concise description of what you expected to happen.

Entering the full name of a species name just added & hitting tab should find that species name.

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[dustymc]

I don't have a solution. I don't think that form can realistically function without a cache, that's what this is hitting.

[DerekSikes]

The weird thing is that it's super fast if I leave off the last letter.

If I paste in the full name it fails. That doesn't sound like a cache issue.

-D

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I don't have a solution. I don't think that form can realistically function without a cache, that's what this is hitting.

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[DerekSikes]

How was this resolved?

It's an unacceptable violation of human interface for a search form to fail to find results if the search term is a perfect match for a name in the database.

-Derek

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 10:04 AM dustymc @.***> wrote:

Closed ArctosDB/documentation-wiki#268 https://github.com/ArctosDB/documentation-wiki/issues/268.

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• search 357,704 digitized arthropod records http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us

[dustymc]

Reopening.

I'll need a lot more infrastructure, or we'll need to talk about what's available in the picks, or both, before I can do anything about this.

[DerekSikes]

Can you explain why a search on

Mimumesa mixt

finds a match with Mimumesa mixta but a search on

Mimumesa mixta

fails? It really seems like something bizarre is going on?

-Derek

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 11:02 AM dustymc @.***> wrote:

Reopening.

I'll need a lot more infrastructure, or we'll need to talk about what's available in the picks, or both, before I can do anything about this.

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• search 357,704 digitized arthropod records http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us

[dustymc]

That would only have been true for about an hour. Search for something, whatever happens (nothing found in this case) is just pulled from the cache regardless of the current state of the data until there's a refresh. A different search (missing a letter here) gets recorded as a new cache object.

[DerekSikes]

Ok, so you're saying that the reason the full name fails to find anything is because I had already searched using that full name before I discovered it was missing in the Taxonomy table? (which resulted in nothing found & that was cached).

So... maybe a rare situation? Maybe I should use the taxon name checker before doing this work & pre-create any missing names?

-Derek

On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 11:19 AM dustymc @.***> wrote:

That would only have been true for about an hour. Search for something, whatever happens (nothing found in this case) is just pulled from the cache regardless of the current state of the data until there's a refresh. A different search (missing a letter here) gets recorded as a new cache object.

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects, Professor of Entomology University of Alaska Museum (UAM), University of Alaska Fairbanks 1962 Yukon Drive, Fairbanks, AK 99775-6960 @.*** phone: 907-474-6278 he/him/his University of Alaska Museum https://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento/

• search 357,704 digitized arthropod records http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us

[dustymc]

saying

Yup.

rare situation

That's the idea, but it didn't take long for this to happen so maybe not. Lacking better ideas, I'll add a blurb about caching to the form.

[sharpphyl]

It happens frequently to us. We've learned to take off the last letter and let Arctos do a new search for the name.