AronHetLam
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2 years ago For our setup we use Ubiquiti gear, and usually it's stable from what I know. We don't have freezes. However, the Tallys are out of sight for the operator, as they are mounted on remote controlled PTZ cameras. So only the talent can see them, and usually they are more focused on the audience physically present, rather than the cameras.
You say your ATEM Freezes? In Skaarhojs ATEM libraries for Arduino there is a comment about the ATEMs freezing if they don't get an ack(nowledge) response before a certain amount of new packages are sent.
https://github.com/AronHetLam/ATEM_tally_light_with_ESP8266/blob/2d6ff1e83375210c36f885ae25e1df034aeeaf60/libraries/ATEMbase/ATEMbase.cpp#L205
This is not something I've run into, but it might indicate that you have a lot of dropping packages - especially from the ESPs to the ATEM. By nature the UDP protocol doesn't have assurance that your packages will arrive, and therefore the network gear is allowed to drop them. The TCP protocol does include assurance, but ATEM uses UDP, so it's ideal to have separate network for the tally system. Atem does build an assurance system into their custom protocol, but as it's built on top of UDP it is built on the assumption that some of the UDP packages arrive, It'll resend packages if it doesn't get an ack, but if all the ack's are dropped it's though luck, and the ATEM won't get the ack's it expects. And according to that comment I mentioned that might make the ATEM freeze.
The ESPs are not that powerfull, and if there is a lot of broadcast traffic on the network that might cause the ESP to drop packages as well, as it has to keep up with all of it, even though it doesn't need it all - It has to read a packages before it can determine if it is needed or not. I'm not a network expert, but this is some of what I've learned while working on this project.
There is an option in the Arduino IDE to make the ESP allocate more resources WiFi bandwith. That might help a little bit, but I don't think it'll solve the problem.
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Hello My setup is now 5 tally light
I have an ATEM 1 M/E production studio 4K and an ATEM 1 M/E broadcast panel. I don't use a computer for control My first router was a TP-LINK TL-WR740N Since I had range and drop issues, I thought changing it for powerfull one, the problems will gone. I get a TP-LINK TL-WR940N, but the issues remain, every 30 or 40 camera change, got frozen the control panel for a few seconds. Sometimes all tally's lost connection, sometimes not.
Doing some research, I found that the control protocol uses UDP and is fairly intolerant to packet loss and network latency and as Strata pro app developers suggestion, now I'm trying an Apple Airport express. In home test, at least the 40 changes freeze problem gone, but I concerned about the router range, since it lacks of external antenas. I hope do some in field test soon.
Which router are you using? do you have drops problem?
A guy from youtube recommend a D Link Dir 615, someone have use it?