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AshLancer / QFG3-Fan-Patch

An unofficial update for Quest for Glory III: Wages of War that builds on Sierra's anthology release and NewRisingSun's speed fixes. Fixes crashes, lockups, dead ends, glitches, sprites/animations, sounds/music loops, and text. Restores cut content. Written in SCI programming language using the SCI Companion 3.0 tool. Please use the latest version!
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Manu greets you after war starts, even if you've never met him #7

Open dfabulich opened 4 years ago

dfabulich commented 4 years ago

I have QFG3 1.0 and I've added the 1.3.1A patch. I'm playing as a Wizard, in ScummVM 2.1.2.

To reproduce: Start a new game (I'm playing as Wizard). Do not visit the East Jungle (Waterfall) screen. As a result, you won't find Manu in a cage.

Retrieve the Spear/Drum and attend the failed peace conference. Now visit the jungle.

Actual: Manu will greet you as soon as you enter the west jungle screen (with the Heart tree), saying, "Man-friend! Manu very happy to see man-friend." Expected: Manu should not greet you in the jungle until you've freed him from the cage once.

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dfabulich commented 4 years ago

In the attached save, go east one screen to the west jungle. Manu will greet you immediately, but he's not supposed to show up yet.

qfg3.006.zip

AshLancer commented 4 years ago

Hi again,

I'm familiar with this situation and believe it's actually by design. Since Manu is a plot-critical character, if you never meet him it would result in a dead end when you enter the mirror room in the lost city. The developers, for whatever reason, coded it so that Manu must meet you on the first jungle screen after the conference (and thus you're never able to heads to the waterfall screen).

dfabulich commented 4 years ago

I'm pretty sure at least in v1.0 Manu won't greet you like this after the conference if you haven't met him. Instead, you have to wander over to the East Jungle, where you'll find the cage, then Manu will wander off, and then shortly afterward you'll see Manu again and initiate the endgame.

dfabulich commented 4 years ago

I was wrong! I went back and replayed v1.0 in ScummVM 2.1.2 and this bug occurs there.

I guess it would be nice to fix this bug, by having you auto-find Manu in a cage instead of having him auto-greet you. Then he could invite you back to his village from there, or in a subsequent meeting.

So I'll leave this bug open, but I agree that it's not a regression from v1.0.

tomasz89 commented 4 years ago

I think it's the game designers trying to be nice too - it would have been a sure dead end that (given the time lapse) would probably have been unrecoverable. I'd suggest closing this off.

dfabulich commented 4 years ago

I don't understand that point. Couldn't you just meet Manu in a cage after the war starts? He's not at all connected to the rest of the war plot.