[Core Mechanic]Players on flying mounts in air should be immune to Frost Nova-effects & [Need research]Possibly other CC effects

[Tenoutoften]

Description This issue still needs research, I don't have video evidence for Stuns, Cyclone & Incapacitating effects - if anyone can provide video evidence of players on flying mounts, in air, from TBC either receiving stuns, incapacitating-effects or cycloned or showing immune feel free to help out.

While on a flying mount, and in air one should be immune to almost all crowd control effects:

• Stun
• Incapacitating effects(Repentance, maim, sap...)
• Fully immobilizing effects(Frost Bite, Frost Nova, Entangle Roots
• Cyclone

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Currently you can do all of those, though you can't reliably use Death Coil(Not sure how to reproduce this, but done it twice) and Polymorph is immune already:

Players on flying mounts, in air should be immune to Frost Nova-effects:

A frost mage Blizzards a group of enemy players, including one player on a flying mount in air and something shows up as "immune" https://youtu.be/gl1y10OO-jU?t=151 This is most likely Frostbite, which is confirmed that the mage got here: https://youtu.be/gl1y10OO-jU?t=167

Considering a flying mount in air is immune to Frostbite, it goes to reason that it should also be immune to Frost Nova, Entangle Roots & similar effects. A good enough player would simply Frost Nova if a flying mount flew over him like https://youtu.be/gl1y10OO-jU?t=306

While when the flying mount is on the ground it is vulnerable to Frost Nova-effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba6Ty72eSH8&feature=youtu.be&t=695

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You could polymorph people off their flying mounts in air during beta/first patch for a brief period of time

In the very first patch / Beta it seems like you could polymorph a player flying on a mount, this seem to have been hotfixed very quickly

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These comments aren't from TBC, but hopefully better than nothing. There is definitely a difference between flying in the air and being landed on the ground, a flying mount should have the same conditions as a ground mount when landed(That means vulnerable to "everything"):

-- Apparently there is one thing that should dismount a player flying with a mount [Item]Goblin Rocket Launcher#23836

Stuns & Incapacitating effects

Expected behaviour: Players on flying mount in air should be immune to:

• Frost Nova-like effects
• Entangle Roots
• Stuns
• Incapacitating effects

Server Revision: 2349

[Wolffenstein]

They are immune to various cc's currently, but not to roots/stuns, and they shouldn't be. I don't see a reason for opening issues about it without evidence, as from what we have found so far proved otherwise.

[Tenoutoften]

Players on flying mounts, in air should be immune to Frost Nova-effects:

A frost mage Blizzards a group of enemy players, including one player on a flying mount in air and something shows up as "immune" https://youtu.be/gl1y10OO-jU?t=151 This is most likely Frostbite, which is confirmed that the mage got here: https://youtu.be/gl1y10OO-jU?t=167

Considering a flying mount in air is immune to Frostbite, it goes to reason that it should also be immune to Frost Nova, Entangle Roots & similar effects. A good enough player would simply Frost Nova if a flying mount flew over him like https://youtu.be/gl1y10OO-jU?t=306

While when the flying mount is on the ground it is vulnerable to Frost Nova-effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba6Ty72eSH8&feature=youtu.be&t=695

[Tenoutoften]

I have video evidence of frost bite procing on a flying mount in TBC showing immune, how is that not evidence? You can currently frost nova flying mounts in air on NW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King EU / NA: November 13, 2008[1][2]AU: November 14, 2008

Evidence provided is Published on Aug 8, 2008

[Tenoutoften]

Id be interested to review the evidence for flying mounts in air that they should be vulnerable to roots/stuns if you have any, then I can stop trying to search for it

[Wolffenstein]

Okay, I was wrong about roots. It would be good to have evidence for stuns but I will make the players immune to them too for now. Fixed in rev 2358.

[Tenoutoften]

Here is a comment from wrath, 3.2 (Release (US) September 22, 2009) saying players are immune to stuns and incapacitating effects on flying mount in air - this is 10 months into Wrath

[Tenoutoften]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Flight_Form&oldid=1662260

"You cannot use abilities in this form. You are also considered a Beast, so spells that target Beasts can be used on you ( [Hibernate], for instance, though you are immune to this while in the air, as flying apparently makes you immune to Crowd Control)." - Revision as of 07:48, 10 November 2008

Why would they be immune to Goblin Rocket Launcher, because it has a stun perhaps?

[knasen88]

flying mounts are part of cancer that killed wow, wouldn't hurt to limit them a bit tbh. flying = invincibility = bad gameplay