Pounce bleeding in PvP

[Miikell]

Description: https://www.wowhead.com/tbc/spell=27006/pounce#comments

Pounce in PvP works badly. If a player resists stun, neither bleeding is applied. But those are the 2 functions of this ability. stun and dmg are separate, target can't resist dmg. It's the same as bosses who are immune to stun.

Current behaviour: If a player resist stun from pounce, nothing is applied, neither stun nor bleeding.

Expected behaviour:

If a player resist stun from pounce, the bleeding should be applied on him.

Server Revision: 4016

[Godmatik]

Proof?

[Godmatik]

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwowtbc/comments/ntqres/feral_druid_bug_reports_melee_ability_range_shred/

Based on this thread/comments from TBC classic on reddit - I don't see any bug here.

If you find definitive proof otherwise, please post it and I will reopen.

[Miikell]

Sorry it will be hard to give you any proof, I will need to have some video from official tbc, which I dont have. I just know how it worked on other servers(old netherwing) and also on tbcclassic offic.

My proof is that it should work the same in pvp as in pve.

All bosses are immune to stun, so when you use pounce on a boss it will say immune to stun, but bleeding is applied. And you'll find this in all the logs, because most feral druids in cat form start their dmg rotation with pounce.

And in pvp it's the same, if the target is immune to stun, he should get bleeding.

And it can't compare to fireball because dmg abilities can't resist. Physical abilities can only miss, dodge, parry max even glance when only part of it is applied. But they can't resist, the resist here is purely for stun.

Only spells can miss or resist.

Plus, on the old Netherwing it worked like that too, but I have a feeling that after someone reported that bleed is applied after a stun miss, you removed it after a stun resist. But those are two different things. (https://github.com/Atlantiss/NetherwingBugtracker/issues/839)

I am sorry I know that I am right, but without video I cannot give you any more proofs. But I hope that this makes you sence.

[Godmatik]

Well keep in mind there is a difference between a target being immune and a target resisting a stun. And yeah based on my research from classic TBC it seems like the current way it is setup is intended. But if you are able to find specific proof such as a video, please share it and we can fix, thx!

[Miikell]

I've only found this video so far. https://youtu.be/k0-kL-kPVEY?si=QfG1qCtOUZuBkOaO&t=385 Time 6:25. It doesn't directly say "resist stun", but you can see that the stun from the pounce wasn't applied, but the priest is wearing a touch of bleeding. And there's no other way to get bleed on target without stun than from stun resist.

Is that enough?

[Godmatik]

Looks good enough for me, yes