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[FEATURE] - Option at install to completely wipe all microsoft related Apps EXCEPT MS Store #1048

Closed CodingMadness closed 6 months ago

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

What is your feature request regarding to?

Atlas Playbook

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

It sort of is, regarding more debloation.

Describe the solution you would like.

Pretty much title.

I know, I have already sort of asked that as a reply to another topic regarding the "hardening" of security surface, but I would like to go another step further and ask if you could bring an option to fully uninstall all pre-installed windows programs, i mean not apps, but programs, like notepad, terminal, ms office (and all related services and other files), xbox (and all related services and other files) ms edge, and so on, that you get a fully debloated windows, with like nothing prehand (ofc I would choose another brower than edge on install).

The reason for this request is ,that quite the amount of people are moving over to more open source alternatives due to security concerns of the respected MS apps and programs.

And ofc, in order to avoid "pls help, I dont have any MS stuff installed..:" in discord and forums, there should come a big fat red warning by doing so that you get rid of legit all stuff pre installed, in order to avoid the crying, and even if its accidental, there is nothing that stops the user to reroll playbook OR just install the needed stuff again via internet.

Please do give this a consideration!

ALl the best

Describe alternatives you have considered.

none.

Additional context.

none.

JayXTQ commented 6 months ago

No. Xbox is mostly required on Atlas because we are a gaming OS. We want people to be able to game out of the box. Also with lots of people, even if we add a disclaimer to a button or something, people will likely click it. If we have said button saying "Remove all apps" people may click it and then realise nothing is there and make complaints which we don't want to deal with at all, we already have tons of people who repeat the same questions so it's best not to introduce more ways to ask more questions. Other software may also be needed for school and stuff, many of our user base is below the age of 18 and may still be in school and do their work online. From this, I will repeat again, this is a bad idea, for our users and mostly all users in general.

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

UWP Windows App SDK applications are also most of windows 11 now. Removing all of that would break its base functionality.

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

UWP applications are also most of windows 11 now. Removing all of that would break its base functionality.

Can you elaborate, how do you mean that?

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

No. Xbox is mostly required on Atlas because we are a gaming OS. We want people to be able to game out of the box. Also with lots of people, even if we add a disclaimer to a button or something, people will likely click it. If we have said button saying "Remove all apps" people may click it and then realise nothing is there and make complaints which we don't want to deal with at all, we already have tons of people who repeat the same questions so it's best not to introduce more ways to ask more questions. Other software may also be needed for school and stuff, many of our user base is below the age of 18 and may still be in school and do their work online. From this, I will repeat again, this is a bad idea, for our users and mostly all users in general.

I really cannot understand this argumentation, you are not responsible for every stupid crap people do, seriously, you can say the same for what if people decide to install some stuff which patches windows, like some graphic patching software which atlas is not so good with (which I did in the past) and it was MY problem, i cannot fault anyone for that and if I do that, then there is a simple answer to that: no answer at all or "read the docs" answer, but the benefit of getting (optionally as I said!) rid of the entire bulk of software which MS calls "standards" and replace it with custom wished software, is something alot of people are used to by using Linux where you define for yourself what you wanna have installed.

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

And I mean, if someone does it you can just reinstall the entire stuff, no? Let aside the fact how retarded you should be to click on a button (which I would furtherly advise to prompt a message box which states if the user is REALLY sure to do that, as a 2. layer of accidental-protection) AND CLICK ON "YES" in that alert message box.....

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

UWP applications are also most of windows 11 now. Removing all of that would break its base functionality.

Can you elaborate, how do you mean that?

Actually Microsoft dropped UWP, so we actually mean the Windows App SDK.

What I mean is every included app (media player, notepad, photos, etc) is powered by WinUI and the windows app SDK. All the new systemapps in win10 (which are included in win11, for win10 you have to update to them) are powered by this framework, and Atlas keeps some of them, we can't just purge them.

Also:

  1. People use the new notepad
  2. People use the new task manager in win11 (another winUI/app SDK app)
  3. People use apps from the Microsoft store that use this framework (kinda unrelated to this, but worth pointing out)
  4. People use Windows Calculator and the other apps that Atlas keeps.
  5. Atlas removes a lot of the useless default apps already ("read the docs")

or "read the docs" answer

Nobody reads that.

And I mean, if someone does it you can just reinstall the entire stuff, no? Let aside the fact how retarded you should be to click on a button

People are really stupid, and we'd like to preserve functionality thank you very much.

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

UWP applications are also most of windows 11 now. Removing all of that would break its base functionality.

Can you elaborate, how do you mean that?

Actually Microsoft dropped UWP, so we actually mean the Windows App SDK.

What I mean is every included app (media player, notepad, photos, etc) is powered by WinUI and the windows app SDK. All the new systemapps in win10 (which are included in win11, for win10 you have to update to them) are powered by this framework, and Atlas keeps some of them, we can't just purge them.

Also:

1. People use the new notepad

2. People use the new task manager in win11 (another winUI/app SDK app)

3. People use apps from the Microsoft store that use this framework (kinda unrelated to this, but worth pointing out)

4. People use Windows Calculator and the other apps that Atlas keeps.

5. Atlas removes a lot of the useless default apps already ("[read the docs](https://docs.atlasos.net/faq-and-troubleshooting/removed-features/#applications-or-features-uninstalled-by-default)")

or "read the docs" answer

Nobody reads that.

And I mean, if someone does it you can just reinstall the entire stuff, no? Let aside the fact how retarded you should be to click on a button

People are really stupid, and we'd like to preserve functionality thank you very much.

okay, I understand, would you mind, maybe for people like me (believe me bro there are tons of people even in youtube who just wish to uninstall nearly everything (okay, except the taskmanager or system-level stuff like that), to sneak in a script which does that, so that you can run that post atlas install? Like a script, which removes the desired app/program AND all its other related files and services or drivers or whatever.

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Please see the following tools:

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

Please see the following tools:

* [Bulk Crap Uninstaller](https://www.bcuninstaller.com/)

* [Uninstall Tool](https://crystalidea.com/uninstall-tool)

* [Revo Uninstaller](https://www.revouninstaller.com/)

* [Bloatbox](https://github.com/builtbybel/bloatbox)

Okay thanks alot Bro and very well done what you guys have pulled of with AtlasOS, thanks alot for the hard work!

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

Please see the following tools:

* [Bulk Crap Uninstaller](https://www.bcuninstaller.com/)

* [Uninstall Tool](https://crystalidea.com/uninstall-tool)

* [Revo Uninstaller](https://www.revouninstaller.com/)

* [Bloatbox](https://github.com/builtbybel/bloatbox)

Mate, do you happen to know, what kind of these "pre installed" apps and services are really really not needed (if it can be said that easily ofc..)

  1. MicrosoftWindows.UndockedDevKit
  2. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS
  3. MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core
  4. Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.CBS
  5. MicrosoftWindows.Client.FileExp
  6. Microsoft.Windows.CloudExperienceHost
  7. Microsoft.BioEnrollment
  8. MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS
  9. Microsoft.AAD.BrokerPlugin
  10. Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost
  11. Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost
  12. windows.immersivecontrolpanel
  13. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2
  14. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2
  15. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00
  16. Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager
  17. Microsoft.WindowsStore
  18. Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider
  19. Microsoft.WindowsNotepad
  20. Microsoft.WebpImageExtension
  21. Microsoft.SecHealthUI
  22. Microsoft.LockApp
  23. Microsoft.Windows.Apprep.ChxApp
  24. Microsoft.Windows.PinningConfirmationDialog
  25. Microsoft.Windows.PrintQueueActionCenter
  26. Microsoft.Windows.AssignedAccessLockApp
  27. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdgeDevToolsClient
  28. Windows.PrintDialog
  29. Microsoft.Windows.XGpuEjectDialog
  30. Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI
  31. Windows.CBSPreview
  32. Microsoft.Win32WebViewHost
  33. Microsoft.Windows.NarratorQuickStart
  34. Microsoft.Windows.CallingShellApp
  35. 1527c705-839a-4832-9118-54d4Bd6a0c89
  36. Microsoft.Windows.CapturePicker
  37. NcsiUwpApp
  38. c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515
  39. Microsoft.ECApp
  40. Microsoft.CredDialogHost
  41. Microsoft.AsyncTextService
  42. Microsoft.AccountsControl
  43. F46D4000-FD22-4DB4-AC8E-4E1DDDE828FE
  44. E2A4F912-2574-4A75-9BB0-0D023378592B
  45. Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions
  46. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.4
  47. Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions
  48. RealtekSemiconductorCorp.RealtekAudioControl
  49. Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay
  50. Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI
  51. Microsoft.WindowsTerminal
  52. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop
  53. Microsoft.WindowsCalculator
  54. Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp
  55. Microsoft.RawImageExtension
  56. Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension
  57. Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension
  58. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2
  59. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2
  60. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement
  61. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement
  62. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8
  63. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8
  64. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7
  65. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7
  66. NVIDIACorp.NVIDIAControlPanel
  67. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00
  68. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop
  69. Microsoft.Paint
  70. MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience
  71. NotepadPlusPlus
  72. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge.Stable
  73. Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller

These are shown by the tool "BloatyNoiseyAI" which I use to furtherly debloat AtlasOS

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Please see the following tools:

* [Bulk Crap Uninstaller](https://www.bcuninstaller.com/)

* [Uninstall Tool](https://crystalidea.com/uninstall-tool)

* [Revo Uninstaller](https://www.revouninstaller.com/)

* [Bloatbox](https://github.com/builtbybel/bloatbox)

Mate, do you happen to know, what kind of these "pre installed" apps and services are really really not needed (if it can be said that easily ofc..)

1. MicrosoftWindows.UndockedDevKit

2. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.CBS

3. MicrosoftWindows.Client.Core

4. Microsoft.WindowsAppRuntime.CBS

5. MicrosoftWindows.Client.FileExp

6. Microsoft.Windows.CloudExperienceHost

7. Microsoft.BioEnrollment

8. MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS

9. Microsoft.AAD.BrokerPlugin

10. Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost

11. Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost

12. windows.immersivecontrolpanel

13. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2

14. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2

15. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00

16. Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager

17. Microsoft.WindowsStore

18. Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider

19. Microsoft.WindowsNotepad

20. Microsoft.WebpImageExtension

21. Microsoft.SecHealthUI

22. Microsoft.LockApp

23. Microsoft.Windows.Apprep.ChxApp

24. Microsoft.Windows.PinningConfirmationDialog

25. Microsoft.Windows.PrintQueueActionCenter

26. Microsoft.Windows.AssignedAccessLockApp

27. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdgeDevToolsClient

28. Windows.PrintDialog

29. Microsoft.Windows.XGpuEjectDialog

30. Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI

31. Windows.CBSPreview

32. Microsoft.Win32WebViewHost

33. Microsoft.Windows.NarratorQuickStart

34. Microsoft.Windows.CallingShellApp

35. 1527c705-839a-4832-9118-54d4Bd6a0c89

36. Microsoft.Windows.CapturePicker

37. NcsiUwpApp

38. c5e2524a-ea46-4f67-841f-6a9465d9d515

39. Microsoft.ECApp

40. Microsoft.CredDialogHost

41. Microsoft.AsyncTextService

42. Microsoft.AccountsControl

43. F46D4000-FD22-4DB4-AC8E-4E1DDDE828FE

44. E2A4F912-2574-4A75-9BB0-0D023378592B

45. Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions

46. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.4

47. Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions

48. RealtekSemiconductorCorp.RealtekAudioControl

49. Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay

50. Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI

51. Microsoft.WindowsTerminal

52. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop

53. Microsoft.WindowsCalculator

54. Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp

55. Microsoft.RawImageExtension

56. Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension

57. Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension

58. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2

59. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2

60. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement

61. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement

62. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8

63. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8

64. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7

65. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7

66. NVIDIACorp.NVIDIAControlPanel

67. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00

68. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop

69. Microsoft.Paint

70. MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience

71. NotepadPlusPlus

72. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge.Stable

73. Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller

These are shown by the tool "BloatyNoiseyAI" which I use to furtherly debloat AtlasOS

Edge can be removed. NVIDIA control panel is actually needed if you have an nvidia card (and it can be updated).

Windows Terminal is required on win11, and it's actually a good winUI app, I'd recommend it to anyone who uses powershell on win10. NotepadPlusPlus is not bundled, why did you send it. A lot of the smaller stuff you list is required by other apps.

However, this discussion is getting off-topic.

dennyamarojr commented 6 months ago

Windows Components to Review

  1. Microsoft.Windows.CloudExperienceHost (Required for MS Account)
  2. Microsoft.BioEnrollment (Required by Biometric features)
  3. MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS (Breaks Windows Search)
  4. Microsoft.AAD.BrokerPlugin (Required for MS Account)
  5. Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost (Required by Start Menu)
  6. Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost (Required by Explorer!?)
  7. windows.immersivecontrolpanel (Breaks Windows Settings)
  8. Microsoft.AccountsControl (Required for MS Account)
  9. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.4 (Required by Windows Components and Apps)
  10. Microsoft.CredDialogHost (Required by dialogs from windows)
  11. Microsoft.Windows.CapturePicker (Required by Snipping Tool)
  12. Microsoft.SecHealthUI (Windows Defender)
  13. Microsoft.LockApp (Required by Lock Screen to show notifications)
  14. Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI (Required by Xbox)
  15. Microsoft.Windows.CallingShellApp (Related to a feature in windows, needs to see which one)

Required by Windows Apps

  1. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2
  2. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2
  3. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2
  4. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2
  5. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement
  6. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement
  7. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8
  8. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8
  9. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7
  10. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7
  11. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00
  12. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop
  13. Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp

Can be safely removed

  1. Microsoft.WindowsStore
  2. Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider
  3. Microsoft.WindowsNotepad
  4. Microsoft.WebpImageExtension
  5. Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions
  6. Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions
  7. RealtekSemiconductorCorp.RealtekAudioControl
  8. Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay
  9. Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI
  10. Microsoft.WindowsTerminal
  11. Microsoft.WindowsCalculator
  12. Microsoft.RawImageExtension
  13. Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension
  14. Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension
  15. Microsoft.Paint
  16. MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience
  17. Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller
Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Windows Components to Review 6. Microsoft.Windows.CloudExperienceHost (Required for MS Account) 7. Microsoft.BioEnrollment (Required by Biometric features) 8. MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS (Breaks Windows Search) 9. Microsoft.AAD.BrokerPlugin (Required for MS Account) 10. Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost (Required by Start Menu) 11. Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost (Required by Explorer!?) 12. windows.immersivecontrolpanel (Breaks Windows Settings) 42. Microsoft.AccountsControl (Required for MS Account) 46. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.4 (Required by Windows Components and Apps) 40. Microsoft.CredDialogHost (Required by dialogs from windows) 36. Microsoft.Windows.CapturePicker (Required by Snipping Tool) 21. Microsoft.SecHealthUI (Windows Defender) 22. Microsoft.LockApp (Required by Lock Screen to show notifications) 30. Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI (Required by Xbox) 34. Microsoft.Windows.CallingShellApp (Related to a feature in windows, needs to see which one)

Required by Windows Apps 13. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2 14. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2 58. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2 59. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2 60. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement 61. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement 62. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8 63. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8 64. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7 65. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7 67. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00 68. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop 54. Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp

Can be safely removed

17. Microsoft.WindowsStore

18. Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider

19. Microsoft.WindowsNotepad

20. Microsoft.WebpImageExtension

21. Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions

22. Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions

23. RealtekSemiconductorCorp.RealtekAudioControl

24. Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay

25. Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI

26. Microsoft.WindowsTerminal

27. Microsoft.WindowsCalculator

28. Microsoft.RawImageExtension

29. Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension

30. Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension

31. Microsoft.Paint

32. MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience

33. Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller

Xbox.TCUI and related packages should be kept for gaming, and Microsoft.WindowsStore and Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller are the Microsoft store and App Installer respectively, keep those.

Keep Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension and Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension. Also maybe keep Notepad and Windows Terminal. And stop this discussion here because it's offtopic. (cc: @JayXTQ)

JayXTQ commented 6 months ago

Yeah, please don't spam this with random apps please, I also stated why no earlier, I am keeping this open incase @he3als wants to comment but as I said, no. This should not be implemented due to our user base, and there is no argument here like "you are not responsible for every stupid crap people do"... yes we are? as software engineers, you need to make your app useable for the most dumbest people on the planet. So if we started adding stuff which may upset people if they don't read, then we have made a mistake.

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Yeah, please don't spam this with random apps please, I also stated why no earlier, I am keeping this open incase @he3als wants to comment but as I said, no. This should not be implemented due to our user base, and there is no argument here like "you are not responsible for every stupid crap people do"... yes we are? as software engineers, you need to make your app useable for the most dumbest people on the planet. So if we started adding stuff which may upset people if they don't read, then we have made a mistake.

Pretty sure you can also mark posts as off-topic 😑

JayXTQ commented 6 months ago

true, but are they really off-topic though if they list appxs?

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

true, but are they really off-topic though if they list appxs?

Maybe.

To summarize just read this: https://github.com/Atlas-OS/Atlas/issues/1048#issuecomment-1981932914

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

Windows Components to Review 6. Microsoft.Windows.CloudExperienceHost (Required for MS Account) 7. Microsoft.BioEnrollment (Required by Biometric features) 8. MicrosoftWindows.Client.CBS (Breaks Windows Search) 9. Microsoft.AAD.BrokerPlugin (Required for MS Account) 10. Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost (Required by Start Menu) 11. Microsoft.Windows.ShellExperienceHost (Required by Explorer!?) 12. windows.immersivecontrolpanel (Breaks Windows Settings) 42. Microsoft.AccountsControl (Required for MS Account) 46. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.4 (Required by Windows Components and Apps) 40. Microsoft.CredDialogHost (Required by dialogs from windows) 36. Microsoft.Windows.CapturePicker (Required by Snipping Tool) 21. Microsoft.SecHealthUI (Windows Defender) 22. Microsoft.LockApp (Required by Lock Screen to show notifications) 30. Microsoft.XboxGameCallableUI (Required by Xbox) 34. Microsoft.Windows.CallingShellApp (Related to a feature in windows, needs to see which one)

Required by Windows Apps 13. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2 14. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2 58. Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.2.2 59. Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.2.2 60. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement 61. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement 62. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8 63. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.8 64. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7 65. Microsoft.UI.Xaml.2.7 67. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00 68. Microsoft.VCLibs.140.00.UWPDesktop 54. Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp

Can be safely removed

17. Microsoft.WindowsStore

18. Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider

19. Microsoft.WindowsNotepad

20. Microsoft.WebpImageExtension

21. Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions

22. Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions

23. RealtekSemiconductorCorp.RealtekAudioControl

24. Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay

25. Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI

26. Microsoft.WindowsTerminal

27. Microsoft.WindowsCalculator

28. Microsoft.RawImageExtension

29. Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension

30. Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension

31. Microsoft.Paint

32. MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience

33. Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller

Thanks alot mate!!! This is what I have looked for, I re-arranged your list to my personal needs, as in, I want to remove everything related to a MS account (since I do not need one and never needed one actually, despite MS forcing you to get one when installing windows 11) and also everything related to XBox since I do not play any XBox related games! Thx alot!

EDIT: This is very subjectional, like I dont need ,as maybe others aswell ,windows 11 notepad aswell as the old terminal, cause its old stuff and can be replaced anyway by notepad++ AND powershell which has way way more stuff in and is very efficient,same goes for windows photo app, XBox is smth everyone needs to see for themselves if its needed or not, in my case, its not, but the desktop app installer and MS Store installer I let there be, in order to be able to install stuff back later if I need to.

Better?

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Oh god please don't double post @CodingMadness edit your last message

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Oh god please don't double post @CodingMadness edit your last message

huh? where do I double post? its a new comment? I wont edit a comment to a post which was another question?

You sent 2 comments one after the other (scroll up). You're supposed to just edit your first post, which we enforce on the forum. (Jay can mark this part off-topic later)

CodingMadness commented 6 months ago

Yeah, please don't spam this with random apps please, I also stated why no earlier, I am keeping this open incase @he3als wants to comment but as I said, no. This should not be implemented due to our user base, and there is no argument here like "you are not responsible for every stupid crap people do"... yes we are? as software engineers, you need to make your app useable for the most dumbest people on the planet. So if we started adding stuff which may upset people if they don't read, then we have made a mistake.

I didnt want to spam anything, but it was related to my desire to get rid of stuff which may not be nessecary for all users, it was still a related comment to my original post.

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

Yeah, please don't spam this with random apps please, I also stated why no earlier, I am keeping this open incase @he3als wants to comment but as I said, no. This should not be implemented due to our user base, and there is no argument here like "you are not responsible for every stupid crap people do"... yes we are? as software engineers, you need to make your app useable for the most dumbest people on the planet. So if we started adding stuff which may upset people if they don't read, then we have made a mistake.

I didnt want to spam anything, but it was related to my desire to get rid of stuff which may not be nessecary for all users, it was still a related comment to my original post.

No that list was very personal. Either way for now the answer is no. See https://github.com/Atlas-OS/Atlas/issues/1048#issuecomment-1981932914.

he3als commented 6 months ago

If you want to remove AppX packages, use the PowerShell AppX module with commands such as Get-AppxPackage and Remove-AppxPackage.

There won't be an option built into the Playbook as the in-built AppX apps are useful, and I don't see a true 'security' concern with them.

Ast3risk-ops commented 6 months ago

If you want to remove AppX packages, use the PowerShell AppX module with commands such as Get-AppxPackage and Remove-AppxPackage.

There won't be an option built into the Playbook as the in-built AppX apps are useful, and I don't see a true 'security' concern with them.

You can also use the tools mentioned here.