Deciding on a journal

[drvinceknight]

This could give us some guidance: http://www.software.ac.uk/resources/guides/which-journals-should-i-publish-my-software

Any suggestions? I think everyone's constraints are the same:

• Open
• On arxiv also

[meatballs]

I like the look of http://openresearchsoftware.metajnl.com/

[langner]

You might also consider publishing each major release of the code on Figshare or Zenodo, so its citable by DOI.

[drvinceknight]

That's done @langner: https://zenodo.org/record/45187#.VrhJUVSLRhE

(There's a badge on the README.)

[drvinceknight]

I like the look of http://openresearchsoftware.metajnl.com/

:+1: Looks great to me.

[langner]

Ah yes. Way cool.

[drvinceknight]

There's a couple of things about that journal that need to be thought about (fees):

http://openresearchsoftware.metajnl.com/about/submissions/

[drvinceknight]

There's a couple of things about that journal that need to be thought about (fees):

To be clear, if we did go anywhere with fees, I would be able to cover them through CU.

[drvinceknight]

It looks like the JORS submission policy has changed slightly since we last looked. They now offer a LaTeX template. Going with them :)

[drvinceknight]

Actually, looking at the template. It's mildly restrictive, going to drop the editor a line.

[drvinceknight]

This is now on the JORS branch: https://github.com/Axelrod-Python/An-open-reproducible-framework-for-the-study-of-the-iterated-prisoners-dilemma/tree/jors

Waiting to hear back from editor and also to get author info OK'd.

[drvinceknight]

This is another option: http://www.springer.com/economics/economic+theory/journal/182

(CU could cover the open access fees: I'd rather not go with a closed open access solution like this.)

[meatballs]

closed open access solution.....

I don't understand what that means - but I'm happy for it to be published wherever you think best!

[drvinceknight]

This: http://www.worldscientific.com/worldscinet/igtr is also an option and they have this as their OA policy: http://www.worldscientific.com/page/open

[meatballs]

Actually, looking at the template. It's mildly restrictive, going to drop the editor a line.

What's the restriction?

[drvinceknight]

I don't understand what that means - but I'm happy for it to be published wherever you think best!

It's the ridiculous situation where: - Academics do the research (paid for by the tax payer); - They submit it to a journal; - Everyone complains that papers should be viewable by all; - Journals kindly offer to for a small fee (usually around £1500) make the article available to all; - ~~Academics~~ Tax payers pay this fee In essence there's open access and open access: one of them is real the other is just were publishers get paid twice (and academics still do all the work).

[meatballs]

This: http://www.worldscientific.com/worldscinet/igtr is also an option and they have this as their OA policy: http://www.worldscientific.com/page/open

The policy page lists three 'Full Open Access Journals', but igtr isn't one of them.

[meatballs]

It's the ridiculous situation where: .....

Ah! I see. That stinks and I'd rather go nowhere near it!

[drvinceknight]

What's the restriction?

They want quite a strict structure: here is an example http://openresearchsoftware.metajnl.com/articles/10.5334/jors.104/

• Overview
• Availability
• Reuse potential

We could write an article in that format but it would read as more of a "brochure" than the current paper. There's nothing stopping us writing that one as well.

I've asked if something a bit different would be of interest to the journal.

[drvinceknight]

The policy page lists three 'Full Open Access Journals', but igtr isn't one of them.

Missed that.

[drvinceknight]

The policy page lists three 'Full Open Access Journals', but igtr isn't one of them.

Yup: http://www.worldscientific.com/page/igtr/submission-guidelines says: "Once the paper is accepted, authors are assumed to cede copyrights of the paper over to World Scientific Publishing Co.". That ones gone.

[meatballs]

IGTR: None of the articles in there have the open access icon next to them

[drvinceknight]

I like the look of http://www.springer.com/business+%26+management/operations+research/journal/10287 (gambit papers have gone there) but there is a fee for open access: http://www.springer.com/gp/open-access/springer-open-choice

[drvinceknight]

I really like the look of http://www.hindawi.com/journals/gt/

[drvinceknight]

This is another option: http://www.mdpi.com/journal/games/apc

[meatballs]

I really like the look of http://www.hindawi.com/journals/gt/

$195 seems like a more reasonable publishing fee!

[meatballs]

This is another option: http://www.mdpi.com/journal/games/apc

500 CHF is slightly more but still better than > $1000!

[drvinceknight]

500 CHF is slightly more but still better than > $1000!

Apparently: £362

[drvinceknight]

Could also go for PLOS ONE although that has a high cost again: $1,495 USD

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/publication-fees

This would/could be covered by CU.

[meatballs]

I'm out of my depth here - if it's open access, I'm happy. Go with whatever might suit you best.

[drvinceknight]

I'm out of my depth here - if it's open access, I'm happy. Go with whatever might suit you best.

I'm happy to make a call at some point, will keep writing down things here in case anyone has any objections.

[drvinceknight]

I've just been speaking to the editor of JORS who clarified the required structure. We could add the availability and reuse sections and then it would be fine. They did however also suggest: http://toms.acm.org/ which looks good too.

[drvinceknight]

Have decided to go with JORS. Setting the jors branch of this repo to the default one. Going to spend some time reading over it this pm but basically there now.

[langner]

Afterthought: perhaps we could just publish on arxiv and choose a journal later?

[drvinceknight]

Hey Karol, was going to do both today: put it on arxiv and submit to JORS. If you think there's a particular reason to hold fire with the journal let me know :)

[meatballs]

Afterthought: perhaps we could just publish on arxiv and choose a journal later?

If it was good enough for Grigori Perelman......

[drvinceknight]

If it was good enough for Grigori Perelman......

Haha true. I guess the only reason to do so would be because we want to think about the journal a bit more. I'm happy with JORS: any reservations? (Re-opening the issue)

[meatballs]

I'm happy with JORS: any reservations? (Re-opening the issue)

None whatsoever.

[drvinceknight]

I'll hold fire till tomorrow @langner :+1:

[drvinceknight]

Paper has been submitted. :) :+1:

[langner]

I was expecting some of the parts to be more fleshed out, but it's all good.