Bicep Community Call - August '24

[stephaniezyen]

We are hosting our August Bicep Community Call on Thursday, August 29th at 2PM PST!

(We usually switch off from 9AM to 2PM PST every other month to accommodate for different time zones)

Use this issue to address topics you would like to discuss, questions you have for our team, further demos you would like to see, and any high or low points you would like to share. This is an open space for our users to discuss any topics they would like to talk about with our team.

You can list topics of discussion in this thread OR you can ask questions during the Q&A portion of the call.

Please sign up here to get an invite to the call. See you there!

[mortenlerudjordet]

I added this to the previous community call, but a bit late. So I will try again here.

Any thoughts around WhatIf state of the union?

Implemented NSG rules with bicep, and saw how whatIf worked (not worked). Seems like for whatIf there is a forced sort on the name of the rule, and this sort is used to calculate the delta. Ignoring the way the rules are sorted going in to bicep.

Would be nice to have some customization options for how whatIf behaves, like the option to turn off forced sort so it will honour the sort order of the rules going in to bicep.

For NSG and FW whatIf would be a really nice sanity check before applying, though the state of things as of now whatIf is a bit dangerous to rely on.

Another nice thing to have is dynamic scopes, so module code can be a bit more DRY. As of now have to duplicate code in to different modules if they need to target different scopes. So would be nice to hear some thoughts on this.

[modbase]

Similar to @mortenlerudjordet, but more in general a status update on the WhatIf short circuiting issue which makes WhatIf quite useless for the time being.

[kiebrew]

Please can we have an update on the limited/broken What-if functionaility, it sounded like back in April/May that you were actively working on resolving some of the underlying issues.

Any update or ETA would be greatly appreciated.

We are super keen to use Bicep for enteprise scale deployments but cannot do so in its current state 🤞🤞🤞

[r2wil]

The What-if issues are massive for me and us as a company. Interested to hear an ETA on when this will be resolved and if there are any work-arounds being used currently because it's hard to justify using Bicep for enterprise clients

[delarooster]

Any updates on Key Vault Certificate support? Seems like a glaring feature miss and while it's not directly owned by the Bicep community is there any way to add some pressure to the Key Vault team to implement? Open issue... going on for more than two years! https://github.com/Azure/bicep/issues/7354

[AnthonyTayar]

Any idea when Gaph will be official and not experimental anymore?

[slavizh]

• on the what-if issues and I would like to ask if there is any plan for this to be introduced, It is needed in many places for building schemas (user defined types). Seems Azure RPs can defined such types when needed.

https://github.com/Azure/bicep/issues/13399

[havard-grondal]

A bit late to the party. But was also wondering about the status on this issue: https://github.com/Azure/bicep/issues/4023

[r2wil]

@stephaniezyen Any chance the community call was recorded at all or were minutes taken and posted somewhere? Thank you

[mortenlerudjordet]

Would also like to know if the recording will be posted somewhere

[slavizh]

Bicep calls are always posted on the same YT channel. Just follow the channel and when it is released you will know: https://www.youtube.com/@azuredeploymentsgovernance3067