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Cannot Recreate the famous 7 Roach Rush #189

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 8 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1. input parameters for 7 roaches with all other parameters set to default

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?
I would expect after maybe an hour of running the program that the results of 
the "7 Roach Rush" would be reproduced, but the best results I had were 7 
roaches at 4:55 instead of 4:40.

What version of the product are you using? On what operating system?
Version 23, Windows 7 64 bit

Please provide any additional information below.
I was able to reproduce this in version 22, so I'm not sure if anything changed 
or if this is just the wonder of genetic algorithms.

FYI, here is the build I had this last time. This was after 77+ million games 
played.

@0:00   M:50    G:0 L:3 S:6/10  Build Drone
@0:15   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@0:17   Spawned:    Drone+1
@0:17   M:52    G:0 L:3 S:7/10  Build Drone
@0:28   M:53    G:0 L:2 S:8/10  Build Drone
@0:32   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@0:34   Spawned:    Drone+1
@0:38   M:52    G:0 L:2 S:9/10  Build Drone
@0:45   Spawned:    Drone+1
@0:47   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@0:55   Spawned:    Drone+1
@0:55   M:100   G:0 L:2 S:10/10 Build Overlord
@1:02   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@1:07   M:80    G:0 L:2 S:10/10 Extractor Trick
@1:07   M:55    G:0 L:2 S:9/10  Build Drone
@1:09   Spawned:    Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@1:17   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@1:20   Spawned:    Overlord+1
@1:24   Spawned:    Drone+1
@1:32   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@1:33   M:205   G:0 L:3 S:11/18 Build Spawning Pool
@1:40   M:52    G:0 L:3 S:10/18 Build Drone
@1:48   M:56    G:0 L:2 S:11/18 Build Drone
@1:55   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@1:55   M:53    G:0 L:2 S:12/18 Build Drone
@1:57   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:02   M:54    G:0 L:1 S:13/18 Build Drone
@2:05   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:05   M:26    G:0 L:0 S:14/18 Build Extractor
@2:10   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@2:12   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:12   M:53    G:0 L:1 S:13/18 Build Drone
@2:19   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:25   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@2:25   M:112   G:0 L:1 S:14/18 Build Drone
@2:29   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:35   Spawned:    Extractor+1
@2:38   Spawned:    Spawning Pool+1
@2:40   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@2:40   M:203   G:0 L:1 S:15/18 Build Drone
@2:40   M:153   G:0 L:0 S:16/18 Mine Gas
@2:40   M:153   G:0 L:0 S:16/18 Build Roach Warren
@2:42   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:42   Mining:     +1 on gas
@2:55   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@2:57   Spawned:    Drone+1
@2:57   M:152   G:10    L:1 S:15/18 Build Queen
@2:57   M:2 G:10    L:1 S:17/18 Mine Gas
@2:59   Mining:     +1 on gas
@3:09   M:108   G:25    L:1 S:17/18 Build Overlord
@3:09   M:8 G:25    L:0 S:17/18 Mine Gas
@3:10   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@3:11   Mining:     +1 on gas
@3:15   M:57    G:36    L:1 S:17/18 Build Drone
@3:25   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@3:27   M:105   G:59    L:1 S:18/18 Build Overlord
@3:32   Spawned:    Drone+1
@3:34   Spawned:    Overlord+1
@3:35   Spawned:    Roach Warren+1
@3:36   M:81    G:76    L:0 S:18/26 Extractor Trick
@3:38   Spawned:    Extractor Trick Finished, Drone Restored
@3:40   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@3:40   M:110   G:84    L:1 S:18/26 Build Roach
@3:47   Spawned:    Queen+1
@3:52   Spawned:    Overlord+1
@3:55   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@3:55   M:169   G:87    L:1 S:20/34 Build Roach
@4:07   Spawned:    Roach+1
@4:10   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@4:10   M:227   G:91    L:1 S:22/34 Build Roach
@4:22   Spawned:    Roach+1
@4:25   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@4:25   M:286   G:94    L:1 S:24/34 Build Roach
@4:27   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +2
@4:27   M:229   G:73    L:2 S:26/34 Build Roach
@4:27   M:154   G:48    L:1 S:28/34 Build Roach
@4:28   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +2
@4:28   M:88    G:25    L:2 S:30/34 Build Roach
@4:33   M:57    G:9 L:1 S:32/34 Build Drone
@4:37   Spawned:    Roach+1
@4:41   Spawned:    @Hatchery #1 Larva +1
@4:50   Spawned:    Drone+1
@4:52   Spawned:    Roach+1
@4:54   Spawned:    Roach+1
@4:54   Spawned:    Roach+1
@4:55   Spawned:    Roach+1
Satisfied.
Number of actions in build order: 34
-------Goal-------
Drone: 1
Roach: 7
Required Bases: 1
Spawning Pool: 1
Roach Warren: 1
---Final Output---
At time: 4:55
Minerals: 206   Gas:      51    Supply:   33/34 Larva: 1
Drone: 17
Overlord: 4
Queen: 1
Roach: 7
Total Minerals Mined: 2218
Bases: 1
Extractor: 1
Spawning Pool: 1
Roach Warren: 1
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Wed Jan 12 12:03:23 CST 2011: 963268.511806952

Original issue reported on code.google.com by jlamar...@gmail.com on 12 Jan 2011 at 8:13

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
It's possible that the algorithm was inadvertently tweaked with all the changes 
that were made since then.  It will also usually produce slightly different 
results every time it is run.

Original comment by mike.angstadt on 15 Jan 2011 at 11:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
It's funny. Although 7 roaches at 4:40 would certainly be faster, I find this 
build more optimal because you have almost twice the drones you would have with 
the 4:40 build for just a 15 second delay. Plu the first 3 roaches are out 
before 4:40 so you could begin pushing with those and pull back defensively if 
your opponent is well able to defend. Roaches not easily killed, but easily 
chased down. This build also affords you the opportunity to send your drone to 
expand just as the seventh roach arrives providing good defense for your 
expansion. Just my thoughts.

Original comment by jlamar...@gmail.com on 16 Jan 2011 at 12:08

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
You never know what you're going to get.  That's what makes Evolution Chamber 
such a useful tool for SC2 players.

Original comment by mike.angstadt on 16 Jan 2011 at 12:15

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago
this doesn't look like an issue, more of a feature. you do end up in a better 
place than with the 7 roach rush. it seems to have built a better mousetrap.

Original comment by ActnMovi...@gmail.com on 27 Jul 2011 at 10:16