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Official Repository of the B00merang Collection
http://b00merang.weebly.com/b00merang-collection.html
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Suggestion: Utilize GitHub Releases #7

Closed MichaelTunnell closed 8 years ago

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

I really like the effort in this theme so I am writing an article that will be featuring it to explain how to make their Linux Desktop look like Windows 10 via this theme but the current way of getting downloads can be confusing to some.

I'd suggest utilizing the Release System that GitHub provides so that people can share the Release page of the repo and all of the latest archives can be included in the one link.

What do you think?

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

I would love to use github to its maximum potential. Unfortunately, I haven't found advanced tutorials of the Git software. Would you like to help?

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

Would you like to help?

Sure, I can help but if you want to learn here are some links.

I haven't found advanced tutorials of the Git software.

You don't actually need to use Git in order to make releases, GitHub has a system for doing it on the website.

I also linked a cheat sheet below for Git which should come in handy because it helped me learn Git when I first started using it.

Here is a good example of what it could look like when using the release system.

I'd also suggest releasing in with a data system so the version of the packages can be different.

Release 2015-11-23:

This way they can still all have different version numbers based on changes but only have one release per group.

Another option is to separate the themes so each theme has their own Repo. This is what I would prefer.

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll have a look then tomorrow

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

Actually, I am building a new repo structure for you right now so if you want to check it out. Here is the Windows 10 default theme.

I actually changed the name from Windows 10 Default to Windows-10-Light so it makes it more obvious the Light vs Dark theme stuff.

I haven't changed everything so if you want to keep the name change you would need to look through what needs to be adjusted but the repo structure would be the same regardless.

https://github.com/MichaelTunnell/Windows-10-Light

If you want to use this structure then I can just hand control over to you and you'd have ownership on it.

I'm also building a repo for Windows-10-Dark and the OS X theme you made so if you like the first structure I can roll it out to the other two.

Here is what a Release for the repo structure would look like. https://github.com/MichaelTunnell/Windows-10-Light/releases/tag/windows-10-light

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

Looks great! I gave it a try and had this as a result : https://github.com/Elbullazul/B00merang-Project/releases/tag/0.7.9

what do you think?

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

The release looks great but I would also remove the archives from the repo normally and then put the source code in folders at least if you want the repos to be containing all of the themes.

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

I think a .iso would not provide much benefit, besides GitHub already provides a master archive download.

https://github.com/Elbullazul/B00merang-Project/archive/master.zip

Although changing the structure of the repo is something I still want which would also improve the master archive.

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

I understand your thinking @cinnamoner, nonetheless, I don't know why someone would like to burn the whole archive since the themes included there aren't of any relevance.

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

I find the whole history of the theme relevant, not just the latest and greatest. Cloud is good and statistically safer.

I agree that a history of the project would be nice but it doesn't need to be here on the repo, they could all be in Release form or just stored somewhere else altogether.

However some of us still like to have tangible media. In some instances local storage should not be abandoned. Consider me new and old school put together. Just as I said, the whole issue hardly bears any significance. I can make an image if my heart so desires. I'd say it is pointless to discuss a personal whim any further.

Agreed, the people who want such a thing can make such a thing or just burn the Zips to a disc via Brasero or K3B.

Since you had the courtesy to address me, I take this opportunity to make a suggestion:

Please, don't do that. You can just create your own issue thread to address another topic. This is one of the reasons forums get messy because people try to change the point of a thread at times.

It is always better to create a new thread or a new issue if the content you want to discuss is unrelated to the main topic at hand.

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

You mean, having something like this ? https://github.com/Elbullazul/Windows-10

Release is off too : https://github.com/Elbullazul/Windows-10/releases

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

Exactly! That's perfect. The source is easily available and forkable so it is easier for people to contribute to the theme. (provided they are familiar with Git)

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

Let me tell that I like it too how it's been organized.

👍

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

Hi,

My intention isn't to cause you extra work, but could you post a link to the article when finished? I would like to have a look at it :)

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

@Elbullazul I will absolutely link it when I finish it. Unfortunately, it won't be as soon as I hoped as I have other articles and some client work to do. I will link it as soon as it publishes though.

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

Article or no article

It's coming . . . though sadly it has taken a lot longer than I intended. I actually started a YouTube channel which unexpectedly took a huge amount of my time. http://tuxdigital.com/yt

only recently have I fully realized how important your input to this project had been and how immensely primitive and ignorant I used to be (and might still be comparatively to a future version of myself).

Thanks for the compliments. Everyone is ignorant of everything until they become informed. I constantly fight my ignorance and still I'll never truly be where I want to be solely due to it being impossible. :)

I've encountered you in other places as well.

If you remember, where might those places be? I'm just curious.

You really know your stuff. Thank you, Michael.

Thanks for the kind words. You're welcome and I'm glad I could help.

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

Err, Cinnamoner, Compiz (with Metacity) is also capable of Windows transparency now remember?

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@MichaelTunnell Do a Pull Request with the new structure?

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner KDE does look good now and then, and I've used it once or twice before in KDE 4 and KDE 5... Well, at least Vistar7 (I think that's what It's Called) still works mostly in KDE 5 (excuse the minor eye-saw from Breeze brightness here and there... :/)

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner Before you do, get a life that's not all crude... facepalm

SERIOUSLY

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner Ok, you've got me talking... Man, the customizations half have inspired me a little bit (especially the Vivaldi ones, there again, my one has custom thumbnails on Speed Dial unlike their's) (also, no English site for it)

Fact: If Cinnamon didn't exist, feren OS would be on KDE Neon by now...

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner Good, only saw the website of it on the video that you posted here... (which had their language on)

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner I don't know to be honest... But the description though says this: "...originally forked from Mandriva Linux, but which is now under independent development" (Though, in blackPanther, by the looks of it, just point-release) (Though, if you're talking about KDE Neon, Kubuntu-based)

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner

  1. Ubiquity (Ubuntu Installer)
  2. Calamares (Highly configurable installer mainly used in Arch distributions)
  3. Something else...
ghost commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner ubiquity is a great application.

ghost commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner build-/convert it from arch-linux to their unique packaging system. I dont say it directly but slitaz and puppy import code from ubuntu and arch linux. ubuntu imports debian and sometimes arch and fedora/opensuse packages. of course its always hidden and sometimes import only security patches.

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner Did you find out what installer it was or at least found a 'How to install' video so that I could see if I could identify the installer?

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner Looking at Darkness's installer, I have no idea what installer that thing is (isn't Calamares nor is it any Ubiquity)

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner:

I wonder whether you would review the Budgie Remix.

I am going to be reviewing Solus, origin of Budgie. Is there something uniquely different for Budgie Remix that makes it worth reviewing alongside Solus?

I would like an opinion and a review on tuxdigital, if you think it's worth it. At any rate, I won't settle for anything less than an opinion. You're the KDE man. I can't think of anyone more qualified in KDE.

I appreciate the vote of confidence. I wouldn't consider myself the "KDE man" solely because I don't want to limit my channel to any one DE or any one distro. My intention is to focus on any and all things Linux.

However, I will give it a look. It seems that it only runs on i586 so I would need a 32bit machine. Unfortunately, I only have 64bit machines so I can only review it via Virtual Machine.

Hey, KDE has always seemed too intricate to me, but is certainly any tweaker's dream.

I like KDE Plasma not because it is a "tweaker's dream" in fact I didn't start using KDE until I was done with being a tweaker. I just want the system I use to do what I tell it to and not fight me all the time. GNOME, Unity, Cinnamon, XFCE, MATE, etc are all fighters in some way. KDE Plasma just says "do it this really weird way that no one else does? alright, cool dude. Let's do that."

@feren:

Do a Pull Request with the new structure?

I'm not sure what you are referring to. This thread is super old. Essentially, my suggested restructuring was already adopted and then @cinnamoner decided to hijack the f*\ out of this thread. :)

@cinnamoner:

His been shapeshifting a lot lately. He used to be Linux help guy. Then turned into Windows help guy. Now he's English Bob. Whatever, great commentator, with a unique style.

He ended his previous channels yelling at the Linux community for being hostile and hateful. He wasn't a saint himself though.

Anyway, I don't really like his videos because he doesn't really do much research before recording. That's a pet peeve of mine for most Linux YouTubers though. They act as an authority but they spend so little time on what they are discussing that they have no authority on the topic. Maybe he's changed though, I haven't watched his latest stuff.

@cinnamoner:

KDE Neon is on par with Cinnamon in my eyes. Both are great.

I like Cinnamon but it has glaring issues like the dependency on solid GPU or on-board graphics. This makes it not viable at all for minimalism. KDE on the other hand is actually incredibly minimal depending on the hardware it is put on. I am making a YouTube video to prove this.

@cinnamoner:

Distrowatch says Mandriva but that ain't correct. It only has some features from the late Mandriva. It's not Debian-based, it's not Arch-based, perhaps Ubuntu-based? Or perhaps it's an independent base, like Solus? I don't know. I do know that it's using RPM packages though. Does it have it's own repo? Driver management can be done from Ubuntu. It's not a massive download but I'm still not in clear with a few things.

Based on means many things. This is why I don't really like DistroWatch, they use terms that aren't very descriptive. If you go to the distrowatch page for Mandriva it says they had a release today. However, Mandriva went defunct last year so not likely.

It's probably a fork of Mandriva from some point long ago like Mageia did.

@feren

(Though, if you're talking about KDE Neon, Kubuntu-based)

KDE Neon is not based on Kubuntu, it is directly based on Ubuntu. The first release of KDE Neon was Kubuntu based but that was completely beta and never intended to be permanent solution. As for 16.04, KDE Neon switched to their more permanent method of basing directly on Ubuntu. KDE Neon and Kubuntu share the same base and DE but they are vastly different.

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@MichaelTunnell

  1. Oh okay... (I obviously remember from the first BETA of KDE Neon)
  2. Pull Request's are when you request a certain amount of changes to the target repository, this can be done by comparing the target repository to a fork of it that you would then have made, or can be compared with other methods, if the owner accepts the pull request or a collaborator does, the differences to the target repository compared with the fork (or other means) are given to the target repository as a commit to the repository...
dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@MichaelTunnell What I've noticed different about Budgie Remix:

  1. Panel on the left
  2. That panel acts like a dock (kinda)
  3. Based on Ubuntu
  4. Different Wallpapers
  5. Means you can get Arc in the Ubuntu Repositories because why not...
ghost commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner ubuntu is a good codebase and its relatively easy to turn off unity features.

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner Solus, not Soulus

ghost commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner b.t.w debian is a great time machine in fact its the only distribution not deleting old releases completly on all sites. It helps if you need gtk1 libc5 gcc3 or gimp 1.5.similar outdated packages and or compilers.

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

Well since this discussion is turning into a Linux Discussion, shall we move to the old 'Discussion about feren OS' issue (whilst I change the name to reflect all distros)?

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

Ok, I renamed it to reflect any discussions on this (now not related to the title) issue, and you can find it here as always: https://github.com/Elbullazul/Windows-10/issues/45

PS: @Elbullazul Shall you mark this Discussion invalid or change the title since the discussion kinda tooken an unexpected turn towards Linux Talk instead of the repos?

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

Deepin is one of the reasons that a Rolling release feren OS would be Debian based (probably some time when Zuro UI looks like the concepts of it, feren OS will become RR)

MichaelTunnell commented 8 years ago

@feren:

  1. Pull Request's are when you request a certain amount of changes to the target repository

I'm aware. This thread is no longer relevant to the original suggestion and my original suggestion was 10 months ago and was adopted by the project just a few days later.

@feren:

What I've noticed different about Budgie Remix:

  1. Panel on the left
  2. That panel acts like a dock (kinda)
  3. Based on Ubuntu
  4. Different Wallpapers
  5. Means you can get Arc in the Ubuntu Repositories because why not...

1 and 2 - ok but not noteworthy in my opinion for a video. 3 - cool but no video needed. 4 - alright, people use default wallpapers? Is that really still a thing?~ 5 - that's cool but I'd rather use a PPA or a Snap for themes or just manually install it myself because the Ubuntu Repos are super slow.

@cinnamoner:

Perhaps it's just me but the new best balance is Manjaro. I would even try Apricity OS. The later, along with AntergOS are Arch made easy to install.

I can't agree with that because Manjaro is not 100% compatible with Arch or the AUR as they change a lot including the kernel. It could work great but it can also blow up in the user's face as it already has for even silly reasons such as forgetting to renew an SSL Cert . . . twice.

Antergos is 100% Compatible because it uses mostly just Arch packages. Antergos only provides their own packages when Arch doesn't provide them or they are custom to Antergos.

Note: it's not AntergOS, it's Antergos. Antergos is a Galician word that means "Ancestors".

@cinnamoner:

They also hold back the packages a little longer (about 2 week of delay relative to Arch). Another factor in my leaning for Manjaro is that I never really liked Mint depending on the Ubuntu base.

That delay results in absolutely nothing. They do not do any additional testing, it only slows down the updates. It also can potentially result in conflicts like when they have left back a few packages for over a month and multiple months in some cases. 2 Weeks Delay = pointless.

@cinnamoner :

I never really liked Mint depending on the Ubuntu base. Sure it's a versatile base but it's produced by Canonical. I guess that says it all.

That only says that you're judgmental but it doesn't say why. Why does it bother you that Ubuntu is produced by Canonical?

@bluedxca93:

ubuntu is a good codebase and its relatively easy to turn off unity features.

It's a fantastic code base and using Ubuntu's Minimal ISO means it doesn't even start with Unity so nothing to remove. :)

@cinnamoner:

My only reluctance is comming from the widespread (but perhaps unjustified) rumour according to which the plasma desktop is overly resource hungry.

KDE Plasma is not resource hungry in any way at all and thus 100% unjustified. This is typically said by people like you who are just repeating what they've heard or by people who for some reason purposefully spread misinformation.

I used to be on the side you are on in repeating what I had heard. I thought the same as you for years. I decided to genuinely try out KDE Plasma in late 2013 / early 2014 and it's been my favorite DE ever since. I took a laptop from 2008/2009 (don't remember) and put KDE Plasma on it because I was sick of Cinnamon being so freaking slow. I actually tried everything else before Plasma and then I finally said "screw it . . . how bad could it get".

I expected it to be super slow and bloated like people always say . . . it's not even remotely slow or bloated and it performed beautifully on that laptop, even better than all the others WITH Effects and Animations ON! I became a KDE fan that day.

@cinnamoner:

Soon: shift to rolling model.

Already shifted to Rolling.

@cinnamoner:

Rolling is a relative term. It can't really be applied generically. It boils down to the distro.

While true, some distros are both. Debian is both "Stable" and Rolling.

@feren:

change the title since the discussion kinda tooken an unexpected turn towards Linux Talk instead of the repos?

That is literally what I warned @cinnamoner about 8 months ago. ;) This thread was dormant for 7 of those months actually. I'll close the thread after this reply.

Elbullazul commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner can you discuss this topic in a new thread please? Let's try to keep the repo structured

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner I think you accidentally posted the same comment twice PS: Do you know why those actually are in Git? (From what I've seen, they're used like Disqus's upvote and downvote buttons to show support or the complete opposite towards an issue comment and/or comment...)

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner

I'm shutting down the desktop. The drive is already full of isos. No download today. I'm on tablet, so we can continue on the other threads.

If you have them, just DISCARD the Alpha, Beta, RC, etc ISOs (but not Stable) once Stable comes out in a little bit into the future (It's literally done, just now prepping the site for the launch of 2016.2, last minute checks, etc)

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner ...or at least, I think that's how it works... ;)

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner BTW, before I go back to the other Conversation repo, here's the WIP site that will replace 'Home' upon the launch of feren OS 2016.2 Stable: http://ferenos.weebly.com/20162hometesting.html <

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

@cinnamoner

Okay, done. Do you think one pass of overwrite is enough?

Depends on the agenda...

dominichayesferen commented 8 years ago

ok, thread now abandoned