Conversation about the feren OS Distro and other things Linux

[ghost]

Welcome to Feren OS Discussion Thread Let's practice order and logic or whatever you want to practice

[ghost]

@feren you can install lets say unity, then you install cinnamon kde gnome-flashback lxde on it. that works.

mate and cinnamon are great intuitive, fast for what they do. unity and kde are not that bad but slower. xfce and lubuntu is something between but nothing unique. gnome-flashback is as if you are using explorer.exe panel. gnome-Shell put it in the trash bin and install slingshot with docky on unity. my opinion. budgie is a great attempt to rescue what is still usable of it.

my preferred window manager when not using libmuffin is pekwm. maybe i put my preferred themes for it on github.

[dominichayesferen]

@bluedxca93 We'd need the squashed filesystem first...

[dominichayesferen]

GNOME is 19 years old already!!? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/08/gnome-turns-19-birthday

[dominichayesferen]

Don't mind me, I'm just testing out @Elbullazul 's Boomerang Blackout theme here...

[dominichayesferen]

Well, since you would probably be wanting me to get screenshots of @Elbullazul 's themes in feren OS, here's Cinnamon Menu + feren OS's default layout + Inspire Icons + @Elbullazul 's themes in action: Blackout: Square: Dark: Glass: Green: Round: (Wait, Windows 10 Orange Edition? opens up menu Oh wait...)

[dominichayesferen]

It even contains glyph icons like 10.

There again, Cinnamon does most of the time...

[dominichayesferen]

@bluedxca93 Can't, on Linux Mint 18 Live (aka: feren OS 2016.2 RC Live)

[dominichayesferen]

So I took the Unstable path, and upgraded Cinnamon to 3.0.7 DEV in this Live CD and here's what I like and dislike about it: Likes:

• Wallpaper now fades when the background is changed!
• Vertical PANELS FTW
• Still as awesome as before
• REVAMPED Applet Configuration Dialog (Yes, it's now its own dialog!)
• Remove this Applet renamed to Remove '(Panel Applet Name Goes Here)'

Dislikes:

• Some themes incompatible with vertical panels (looks at Arc)
• Window List With App Grouping and Slingshot and Weather are 'Not Suitable For Vertical Panels'
• Normal Window List Applet looks, odd on vertical panels...
• Spacing Bugs
• Drawer is rendered useless on the vertical panel...

Here's my screenshot of it:

[Elbullazul]

It's a nice improvement for cinnamon

@bluedxca93 I'll post it when I can. Got the hdd working again (for how long? )

[ghost]

@feren does starkmenu work on it. @elbullazul thx.

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul Just Use A Cloud Drive... sigh (O_o)

[Elbullazul]

Smart data saya the disk is OK.

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul Seagate HDD?

[ghost]

@feren no that won't do.

@cinnamoner the old gnomenu works still in cairo dock on 16 04.am posting its code soon on github.Just for fun and to help a friend.

regards bluedxca93

[dominichayesferen]

@bluedxca93 I was simply curious

[ghost]

@feren or western digital? my neighbour had always a broken hdd with it. i do use seagate but they are also not perfect. I begun to save all my personal and important data on two harddisks in different folders and filesystems. the only way to prevent data loss.

[Elbullazul]

seagate HDD

my guess is that some block in the boot sector died and, well, the OS wouldn't boot

it's running ok now

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul Huh, cause...

1. It's the maker of the HDD of my old and legendary Lenovo PC
2. I have a Backup Plus Portable HDD over here (for testing feren OS, etc)

[Elbullazul]

I have a WD backup disk (?)

i installed lubuntu because I have a new idea in mind, but not stopping development

just gave gnome-boxes a try, it's awesome!

[dominichayesferen]

Ok, feren OS Constructor is 99% ready for use, last thing needed, THE SCRIPTS. :)

[dominichayesferen]

Ok, so, once feren OS 2016.2 is done, here's what coming next:

1. 32-Bit 2016.2
2. feren OS Constructor 1.0.0 is released
3. (Possibly) feren OS Light 2016.2 (will be killed with 32-Bit ISO support as it'll be 32-bit only)

[dominichayesferen]

WARNING TO THEMES WITH BOX POINTERS: Check your theme in Cinnamon 3.0.7, I found out that I had to rebase it off of 'cinnamon' cinnamon theme's box pointer code because of a weird bug on Vertical Panels... https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/5578

[ghost]

@Elbullazul i think we schould collaborate a bit for aero -/ vistaish 3.20 look. Yes you need some different designs but all in all its very close.

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul Yeah. have used that before, still split between Kazam and SSR

[dominichayesferen]

@bluedxca93

1. Would be awesome if you make it a MATE APPLET like GnoMenu used to be a Gnome2 Applet... (You would be a legend if you do that)
2. Well, at least you can still theme it with icons...

[ghost]

@feren i tried. the main problem is the author of matenu and tilo menu maked some changes and ported a hell of stuff but it only worked in very specific now outdated version. The problem is mate doesnt have the panel applet module from gtk2 anymore. it works with cairo dock and the code shows its possibly portable to mate gtk 2 but for that we need a full fledged python programmer and im definitely not one. awn i can get to work and dockbarx too. but that isn't the same rock solid stability as mate panel.

[Elbullazul]

@bluedxca93 I think we should. I'm now installing fedora 24 to see latest progress of your port. The vista version included a couple enhancements to scrollbars and other small fixes, but the primary-toolbar gradient was the only big change

[ghost]

Please TEST GnoMenu fork!

YourMenu.tar.gz

Depends on python-gmenu and libgnome-menu2 of wily. only need to download these two packages install them run apt-get -f install and then YourMenu.py settings change to another one and YourMenu.py run-in-tray or use the cairo-dock plugin. Credits goes to zorin, but license was gpl so im allowed to do this =).

[dominichayesferen]

@bluedxca93 Nice! run-in-tray WORKS run-in-window CRASHES debug CRASHES

[ghost]

@feren please try cairo dock too!

[dominichayesferen]

It works... (Just that changing it requires Cairo to restart too)

[ghost]

hi, had a version of the pu hacked creating a standalone button. if im able to find i'll upload.

[dominichayesferen]

What is 'pu'?

[ghost]

py well might post them found them.

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[dominichayesferen]

Well, thanks to lestcape noticing my Feature request, #Cinnamon will hopefully soon be able to resize the panel to MINIMUM size (like in KDE, etc)

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul What did you use to Recover your HDD? That blue Portable HDD of mine just died... :/

[dominichayesferen]

BTW, if you have RC, you can just remove the RC tag from /etc/linuxmint/info, then update packages, then you're basically running on what is meant to then be Stable

[Elbullazul]

@feren live CD and external hdd

Guess it wasn't as cataclysmic as yours

[Elbullazul]

Just saw which drive failed. You seem to have very bad luck with hdd s

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul Live CD and External HDD here too So basically, this is the damage done:

• feren OS Stable Development
• The Latest Stable ISO
• Linux Mint 18 ISO
• feren OS Constructor
• Some useful stuff

It basically FELL

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul So... what did you use to fix yours??

[Elbullazul]

booted a live session and my data was fine, then reinstalled the OS

for a failed HDD I guess it's better try to use gparted recovery tool; or at least make a copy of your partition (if you have access to it)

maybe it's the drive engine that failed; then all your data would (hopefully) intact

or the head just scraped your files, then you're toast

try the thing with gparted

[ghost]

@feren use gparted or better dd to mirror the drive if possible on a clean drive. then you can do all sorts of recovery stuff. foremost dosfsck and photorec is what you use on sd cards b.t.w. .

[dominichayesferen]

@bluedxca93 I don't think that round headerbar buttons would look consistent with the rest of the theme...

[dominichayesferen]

@Elbullazul D: Not even GParted can see it, AT ALL. Basically, each time it's connected, it also beeps like the old dead one did but quicker...

[ghost]

@feren @elbullazul @cinnamoner fixing the new headerbar buttons is easier than scrollbar. I do start with scrollbar. It has some errors left , but that is.due to the missing documentation of gtk.

creating the menuitems in ambiance and ambiance-aero for 3.20 took me 3 days. and now they are at least stable.

the tabs was even more. now i know a working workaround but its difficult to force the api to do what i want.

[dominichayesferen]

PS: Don't worry too much about the HDD, I STILL HAVE ONE PORTABLE LEFT THAT WORKS. (Lenovo)

[ghost]

@cinnamoner gtk2 was documented. gtk3 does explain the options for the variables/strings? you feed the gtk3 parser with.

in fact all themes are only using à set of functions cause using more makes it break too often. For a programmer its a bit easier than for one creating themes.

p.ex for menuitems i figured out a almost stable method, then i loked at ambiant-mate and it works perfect. you can only define one 1px border, rest your do with box-inset. @elbullazul if im not mistaken in your 10 themes in a version your had a method to acess almost every pixel. it was in gtk assetss css.

but the nodes/classes are not explained correctly.

qt i dont know.

[Elbullazul]

@bluedxca93 I remember, that was part of the base theme I use. It had gtk draw the checkboxes with gradients

3.18 broke that method

[ghost]

@elbullazul ok.damn but if tis like that, we need to work around these feature deletions. tell me once you set up a system with gtk3.20.

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