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Emporer's Children Apothecaries can't buy augments as a squad #2782

Closed Posh-Tim closed 1 year ago

Posh-Tim commented 1 year ago

When taking the Emperors Children Rite of War IIIrd Company Elite, Apothecaries aren't granted the ability to buy surgical augments as a squad. Nor are they flagged as a validation error for being a character without one in the force.

Mayegelt commented 1 year ago

Hi ya. Thanks for the report. This one is one of those murky ones as both Apothecary and Tech Marines are both units and not units at the same time. The 3rd company thing also has a restriction that it's only infantry units, which in the case of the Apoth and Tech Marines could in essence be a mixed unit of some infantry and some cavalry (if some are on bikes or jetbikes).

I do not believe the intention is that for a 1 off payment of 30pts you could give up to 8 units sonic shriekers (which would be cheesy as hell). I ended up asking on the EC Facebook group and they agreed.

So this is one I could put in, and I can do the mandatory must take part of it. But I think the equip the whole unit thing might remain off unless I can be convinced otherwise.

Posh-Tim commented 1 year ago

Hi, I can see that as a reasoning. However, I do believe that it is the intention to allow attachment of sonic Shriekers in this fashion. Apothecaries are a large part of the shape of Emporers children and rules as written I believe it is how it should be applied. I agree that if they end up with bikes that it would not work and so in that sense the two are mutually exclusive. As a reference for precedent, the Solar Auxilia Medicae, when using the Ferals Doctrine can buy Fear as a unit and therefore (effectively) grant it to all the units they attach to. This would work identically I believe. Either way you decide, thank you for the response and taking the time.

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Hi ya. Thanks for the report. This one is one of those murky ones as both Apothecary and Tech Marines are both units and not units at the same time. The 3rd company thing also has a restriction that it's only infantry units, which in the case of the Apoth and Tech Marines could in essence be a mixed unit of some infantry and some cavalry (if some are on bikes or jetbikes).

I do not believe the intention is that for a 1 off payment of 30pts you could give up to 8 units sonic shriekers (which would be cheesy as hell). I ended up asking on the EC Facebook group and they agreed.

So this is one I could put in, and I can do the mandatory must take part of it. But I think the equip the whole unit thing might remain off unless I can be convinced otherwise.

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Mayegelt commented 1 year ago

Personally I think I should probably remove it from the solar medicae section. I think I probably put it in on autopilot.