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It is not FW bug. Probably WiFi driver allow writes to unlocked regions, but
this theory needs deep reversing since where is no sources for it.
Original comment by lly.dev
on 12 Dec 2010 at 6:26
Sorry for not silently walking away, but could you please:
1. First confirm whether this issue is reproducible for you or not.
2. If it is reproducible, then it probably makes sense to
a) Simply workaround it by disabling "wifi radio off" option in *your* FW for
now
b) Somehow communicate the problem to ASUS in the hope that it might be fixed
(I can do it myself, but first I need a confirmation)
I wasted a good half a day trying to figure out what is wrong and why the
system is unstable. Would it not be nice to prevent the other users from having
this experience? And in the case if it is not reproducible for anybody else,
then probably I just need to return it back to the shop as defective.
Thanks.
Original comment by Siarhei....@gmail.com
on 12 Dec 2010 at 11:50
Attachments:
I have attached the memtester program binary in the previous comment for the
convenience of those who might want to try to reproduce the problem. It's just
an unmodified memtester 4.1.2 compiled with mipsel-unknown-linux-uclibc
toolchain.
Original comment by Siarhei....@gmail.com
on 12 Dec 2010 at 11:56
Once more - there is no sources of Broadcom WiFi driver. You free to write
complain to Broadcom yourself.
Original comment by lly.dev
on 13 Dec 2010 at 7:44
Leonid, can you reproduce it?
Original comment by v...@orient-96.ru
on 13 Dec 2010 at 8:04
themiron:
1) first of all, memtester can give errors on sizes > 1/2 RAM (64M)
2) and is it reproducible for you?
Original comment by lly.dev
on 13 Dec 2010 at 8:58
OK, now I'm about 95% sure that "wireless radio turned off" is the real cause.
I had the system compiling various packages (including rebuilding gcc itself)
during the last day, and everything worked great without a single fail.
Occasional runs of memtester (now checking 110MB, that was possible due to
enabled swap) also did not reveal any problems. With a confirmation from
somebody else, the confidence level will just rise up to 100% :)
I really don't know what to do with you guys. I primarily came here because of
the positive feedback about your firmware found on the Internet, and it indeed
seems to suck a bit less than the ASUS one. So thanks anyway, you made my life
a little bit easier. If you don't want to be notified about the bugs and
problems, then so be it, it's your choice and I respect it.
> Once more - there is no sources of Broadcom WiFi driver.
Just to make it clear. I'm not really interested if a working WiFi on this
device (I have another WiFi access point which works fine), so I have little
need for the Broadcom driver. I'm just a bit surprised that it is even loaded
(is it?) when WiFi is supposed to be turned off. That's a waste of RAM, and the
source of potential bugs.
As I mentioned before, I don't mind filing a bug to ASUS myself, as they are a
direct upstream and it's up to them to bother Broadcom next. I just need a
confirmation of the issue from somebody else to be absolutely sure. And if
nobody else cares, then this is not moving anywhere. Sorry.
On a positive side, Broadcom seems to be opening some stuff, you guys probably
have already heard about this anyway. Don't known how it affects this RT-N16
device though, but it would be nice if any improvements are coming:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/55418
> 1) first of all, memtester can give errors on sizes > 1/2 RAM (64M)
This sounds like a really serious kernel bug. If you have some clear
description of the steps needed to reproduce it, please let me know. You seem
to be using the following patch already:
http://code.google.com/p/wl500g/source/browse/branches/rt-n/kernel-2.6/050-mvist
a-mem.patch
Are there some other known memory related stability problems that I'm not aware
yet?
Original comment by Siarhei....@gmail.com
on 14 Dec 2010 at 10:03
Neither me, nor theMIROn can't reproduce your problem.
If you don't want to use Broadcom driver at all, you have to use OpenWRT.
If you read wl500g.info & OpenWRT forums, you will discover that Broadcom
didn't open sources for embedded WiFi cards used in RT-N16, for example.
Anyway, we are simply unable to provide personal support.
Original comment by lly.dev
on 15 Dec 2010 at 8:44
> Neither me, nor theMIROn can't reproduce your problem.
Thanks for your feedback. That's really interesting. Could it be some
difference in the bootloader then? If I understand it correctly, you never try
to replace CFE.
> If you don't want to use Broadcom driver at all, you have to use OpenWRT.
Please don't jump to any baseless conclusions. I definitely don't have to use
OpenWRT or anything else. In the end I'm only interested in just a properly
working and reliable kernel for this device without any kind of userspace
stuff. But relax, you don't have to worry about this, and I'm actually not
interested in your opinion on this matter either.
> Anyway, we are simply unable to provide personal support.
Well, just don't waste your time and don't bother replying then. Seriously.
Original comment by Siarhei....@gmail.com
on 15 Dec 2010 at 9:38
To sum it up, the facts are:
1. There is an easily reproducible problem involving the use of your FW in one
particular configuration on my RT-N16 device. If this problem gets triggered,
the consequences are quite serious as the stability goes south. As a side note,
I don't need any kind of help or support just because I have already narrowed
it down (though without investigating it further yet) and workarounded this
problem even before reporting this issue here. So there is no need to patronize
me or give any kind of otherwise useless advices that are not directly related
to the issue.
2. The project maintainers are pissed off by Broadcom and clearly are not going
to waste any time investigating the problem. Hence the immediate change of bug
status to 'invalid'.
3. Two other persons tried to reproduce the problem with no luck. My guess is
that it might have been caused by:
a) some differences in CFE
b) some differences in WLAN neighborhood (I have lots of other wireless access
points around)
c) some differences in the hardware (my device was bought less than 1 week ago
for what it matters)
d) the persons who tried to reproduce the bug did not try hard enough
One last remaining question is. If the bug ever gets confirmed, are you going
to reject any patches/workarounds? I understand that it may be a political
issue and an important act of protest against Broadcom.
Original comment by Siarhei....@gmail.com
on 15 Dec 2010 at 10:29
We have to use Broadcom SDK, and Broadcom rejects any requests from all who not
own it. In case of you don't agree with this situation, the only thing you can
do - not to use SDK. Period.
In case of you(or someone else) will fix something in Broadcom SDK, patches(not
dirty hacks) will be accepted. I really not sure that someone will do workable
binary patch against wl.ko WiFi driver.
Original comment by lly.dev
on 15 Dec 2010 at 10:57
Original issue reported on code.google.com by
Siarhei....@gmail.com
on 11 Dec 2010 at 10:39