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River Gauges #9

Open bathnesresearch opened 10 years ago

bathnesresearch commented 10 years ago

For those in an environmental frame of mind, these looked quite fun

http://www.ceh.ac.uk/data/nrfa/data/search.html

the river gauges for the UK - no idea how easy it would be to pipe this into the datastore.

WebUnknown commented 10 years ago

Be nice data to have, especially if mashed. Here's the same data unmashed, I thought it was beautiful http://www.gaugemap.co.uk/

Crashthatch commented 10 years ago

Seems some places have downloadable data it would be possible to scrape. The rest have "contact us" links.

Not sure about the terms: http://www.ceh.ac.uk/data/nrfa/data/data_terms.html

"Data received from the NRFA must not be passed on to any third party" - I guess that would be what we would be doing?

ldodds commented 10 years ago

Yes, re-publishing the data counts as distribution

warmfusion commented 10 years ago

"Reproduction is authorised, except for commercial purposes, provided the source is acknowledged."

Similar problem to the wunderground licensing - how to we manage attributing our primary sources?

ldodds commented 10 years ago

Custom terms and conditions are always tricky.

I had a quick look at the Wundeground terms. I think we're OK to redistribute that but need to comply with their attribution, which includes a logo and a link. We can handle that in the datastore by adding a logo to the dataset and ensuring that the "Data Provided By", and "Source Link" refer to Wunderground and their website.

I've also added a "Re-user guidelines" as a custom field. We can point to that where there are custom terms that a developer needs to obey. So I'd add a link to their API terms from there. The "Additional Licence Information" fields should be empty as its not published under an open licence.

So the rule of thumb should be that, if redistriction/re-publication is allowed, then we can add it to the store and use the existing fields to include logos and link back to sources. Its up to developers using the data to pay attention to any extra Re-user Guidelines.

For the River Gauges, the terms seems ambiguous: "Data received from the NRFA must not be sold, or passed on to any third party. Reproduction is authorised, except for commercial purposes, provided the source is acknowledged". That seems contradictory to me, unless they consider reproduction to be printing or visualisations.

If in doubt, I usually drop people an email to check. If they give the OK, then it could be handled the same as Wunderground, e.g. pointing to their custom terms.

ldodds commented 10 years ago

@voltronik see above comment, you might want to link to the Google terms of use in the "Re-user Guidelnes" from some of the datasets you added.

jackmcconnell commented 10 years ago

@ldodds Done for the Google data.

ldodds commented 10 years ago

@voltronik thx!

btw @warmfusion I mean to say: any datasets where we're unsure about distribution, then maybe we can set these up as external datasets in Socrata. Create a dataset then choose "Link to External Data". You can then add metadata and a link to the datasets. At least they're in the catalog then, even if the usual tools aren't available.