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Linking malke'at in Bm to https://malkeagubae.com database by Augustine #2640

Open nafisa-valieva opened 3 weeks ago

nafisa-valieva commented 3 weeks ago

Augustine Dickinson has created a database for Malkǝʾs, https://malkeagubae.com/. From my perspective, it would be nice to refer to it in work ids as a source. I would like to have it in Zotero with a bm tag: would you agree?

eu-genia commented 3 weeks ago

Thank you, of course it can be added to bibliography. In general, you do not need to create an issue if you want to add something to the Zotero and to record bibliography.

Since @smaugustine thankfully uses the same IDs no additional mapping is needed. CAe is already linked from his database.

You can and should also add the link to relations e.g. <relation name="skos:exactMatch" active="LIT6472MalkeaMamas" passive="https://w3id.org/malke/6472/"></relation> then you will have it as

image as we always do for external matches to other catalogues and databases working with the same data.

For such things also you do not need to open issues as it is already available.

Additionally/alternatively, wherever @smaugustine agrees, the transcriptions may be added to our records (they are already available in TEI XML so it can be done in one click).

You need to create an issue if you

For the moment I do not see any need of intervention on my part or the meaning of this issue, but maybe I am missing something.

(just as an example - we are mapping our records to PEMM records, for that several adjustment to the data structure were necessary https://github.com/BetaMasaheft/Documentation/issues/2540 you can see the result as e.g. https://betamasaheft.eu/works/LIT0010MMDZ/main, where you can see PEMM ID added to the mapped Clavis list + the citation specifying that the record was created by them + the credits below - we can do that here as well but then I need a very clear instruction on what you want to see)

(website is not the correct label either, the question refers to (1) works (2) bibliography (3) app, not to html)

nafisa-valieva commented 3 weeks ago

Ok! Thank you! @smaugustine, do you have something to add or specify?

smaugustine commented 3 weeks ago

@eu-genia is exactly right, for the publicly-facing records the sole identifier used is the Clavis, so there is a near perfect correspondence. It is also ideal to use the permalinks, as these will be more stable, though I don't envisage any breaking changes in the future.

@eu-genia, at some point we might discuss the records I have for texts that are not yet in the Clavis, which I maintain locally with temporary identifiers. In this case I could provide XML that even more closely adheres to BM's schema, with witnesses included, and of course I would share them in advance. It is still a work in progress as I try to unify my scattered notes and data into this single repository, but there would be a few hundred records, I suppose. As I have been doing, each text is carefully distinguished from others by comparing a sufficient number of stanzas to avoid duplicates.

eu-genia commented 2 weeks ago

@smaugustine - @nafisa-valieva has brought to my attention that in Bm we, due largely to Chaîne, have separate CAe IDs for the tarafa malk, which are grouped together in your database.

If individual circulation exists for malk without tarafa malk or for tarafa malk without malk, then two separate IDs are justified, but need to be additionally mapped. To be 100% consequent actually we might even need a third ID for the combination of the two, and then your database should have to be remapped to this third ID, but maybe for the moment we can leave it and link the two CAe IDs through a relation in Bm as attempted here? https://github.com/BetaMasaheft/Works/pull/1196/files

In case you have already a list of CAe IDs for the tarafa malk this would be helpful (maybe these can also be inserted on your end?), or I will search by incipits

eu-genia commented 2 weeks ago

Surely a list of texts not yet in CAe would also be very welcome, I would then create IDs for them, I can XSLT them to our format quite easily, from any XML source

smaugustine commented 2 weeks ago

@eu-genia The individual Chaine numbers for malke' and tarafa malke' pairs appear together on the homepage and in the YAML data but I haven't included them in the APIs. I could add them, if that would be helpful. Otherwise they are meant to appear on this page, but it is still a work in progress. This page is also meant to include notes explaining works that, for example, do not belong at all in the Répertoire, such as everything Chaine has from MS V. 19 which are rather nagś stanzas from an ʾƎgziʾabəḥer nagśa MS (e.g. LIT2749RepCh33).

I confess that I have not tracked perfectly the presence/absence of tarafa malke'. Many cases have so few copies that they are sure to appear together. Most of the remaining cases will be some copies with, some copies without, but always with the same text. In any of these cases, the vast majority of the texts that are used for the tarafa malke' do not circulate independently. The cases where there are multiple possible tarafa malke' for one malke' and/or the tarafa malke' is attested separately are rare and for this reason I found it expedient not to include such a granularity in my data (also because I imagine it may mislead average users of my database). To be sure in every case whether it would be 1/2/3 BM records would require verifying in each manuscript.

Chaine himself, based on the information available to him, also did not identify every tarafa malke'. In the case of my recent article with Malkəʾa ʾArsimā (CAe 2900), of the two witnesses (EMML 6993 and BL Or 577), the EMML MS excludes the tarafa malke' while the BL MS includes it but it is not mentioned in the catalogue and so was not included in Chaine (or in BM). But the salāmtā used there for the tarafa malke' is not, to my knowledge, attested separately.