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2 years ago I fully agree!
Il 16.09.2021 09:07, Pietro Liuzzo ha scritto:
@abausi https://github.com/abausi @FrancescaPanini https://github.com/FrancescaPanini @eu-genia https://github.com/eu-genia have developed the following list of corrections to be made to the styles. This need to be tested, eventually implemented and submitted to the CSL style repository.
- Long names and short names styles need to be aligned, at the moment there seem to be some discrepancies (even though I haven’t experienced it myself).
- When the same person is author and editor/translator the name does not need to be repeated.
Basset, R. 1916. Le synaxaire arabe jacobite (rédaction copte), III: Mois de Toubeh et d’Amschir, ed., tr. R. Basset, Patrologia Orientalis, 11/5 (Paris: Firmin-Didot et Cie, 1916).
Basset, R. 1916. Le synaxaire arabe jacobite (rédaction copte), III: Mois de Toubeh et d’Amschir, ed., tr., Patrologia Orientalis, 11/5 (Paris: Firmin-Didot et Cie, 1916).
- In both English (UK and US) and German, the style for the short references puts the abbreviations “p.”, “pp.” or “S.” before the page number(s):
Bausi 2002, S. 12
Bausi 2002, 12
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In the style for German, the abbreviation “hrsg.” is written small, while is should be written with capital letter, i.e. “Hrsg.”*
In the style for thesis, there is a missing comma: Hummel, S. 2020. Das hagiografische Werk zu Śarṣ́a Ṗeṭros. Werkgenese und Teiledition Doktorarbeit, Universität Hamburg (2020).Hummel, S. 2020. Das hagiografische Werk zu Śarṣ́a Ṗeṭros. Werkgenese und Teiledition, Doktorarbeit, Universität Hamburg (2020).
- In the style for manuscript, there is a missing comma:
Bausi, A. 2019. The Ethiopian Biblical Canon in its earliest literary attestation: An assessment of the evidence Paper presented at the Society of Biblical Literature Annual Meeting 2019, 23–26 November 2019 (San Diego, CA: 2019).
Bausi, A. 2019. The Ethiopian Biblical Canon in its earliest literary attestation: An assessment of the evidence, Paper presented at the Society of Biblical Literature Annual Meeting 2019, 23–26 November 2019 (San Diego, CA: 2019).
- There is the following problem with the syntax for reprint and later editions of a work:
Taddesse Tamrat 2009. Church and State in Ethiopia: 1270–1527, (repr.) (Los Angeles, CA: Tsehai Publishers, 2009).
Taddesse Tamrat 2009. Church and State in Ethiopia: 1270–1527, repr. (Los Angeles, CA: Tsehai Publishers, 2009).
Beachy, M. 2018. A Brief Grammar of Dizin, (2nd edn) (Mizan Teferi: The Bench Maji Zone–SIL Ethiopia, 2018).
Beachy, M. 2018. A Brief Grammar of Dizin, 2nd edn (Mizan Teferi: The Bench Maji Zone–SIL Ethiopia, 2018).
- Is there a way to express authorial and editorial collaborations as follows:
Secondary authors:
Gori, A., A. Regourd, J. R. Brown, and S. Delamarter 2014. A Handlist of the Manuscripts in the Institute of Ethiopian Studies, II: The Arabic Materials of the Ethiopian Islamic Tradition, Ethiopic Manuscripts, Texts, and Studies, 20 (Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2014).
Gori, A. 2014. A Handlist of the Manuscripts in the Institute of Ethiopian Studies, II: The Arabic Materials of the Ethiopian Islamic Tradition, with contributions from A. Regourd, J. R. Brown, and S. Delamarter, Ethiopic Manuscripts, Texts, and Studies, 20 (Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2014).
Assistant editors:
Bausi, A. and E. Sokolinski 2016. 150 Years after Dillmann’s Lexicon: Perspectives and Challenges of Gǝʿǝz Studies, eds A. Bausi and E. Sokolinski, Supplement to Aethiopica, 5 (Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz Verlag, 2016).
Bausi, A. 2016. 150 Years after Dillmann’s Lexicon: Perspectives and Challenges of Gǝʿǝz Studies, ed., with assistance from E. Sokolinski, Supplement to Aethiopica, 5 (Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz Verlag, 2016).
An additional problem comes from the fact that sometimes there is a collaboration among editors, no assistance:
EAe. S. Uhlig, ed., Encyclopaedia Aethiopica, I: A–C; II: D–Ha; III: He–N; in cooperation with A. Bausi, ed., IV: O–X; A. Bausi in cooperation with S. Uhlig, ed., V: Y–Z. Supplementa. Addenda et Corrigenda. Maps. Index (Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz Verlag, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2010, 2014).
Do you think there is any solution to this?
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We still have the problems with the publication date which we had tried to overcome with the ‘bibliography tool’. Since a few years have gone by, can we look into this gain to see if there is now a better solution available?*
One more point is the fact that encyclopaedia entries (which we as a rule do not give in the final bibliography) are not distinguished by the additional letter (2010a etc.), so that more entries by the same author have the same abbreviated form, e.g. Liuzzo 2020, Liuzzo 2020 etc.; in fact, they are not counted, and this generates confusion, among them, and also with other non-encyclopaedic contribution of the same year; it is (also) one of the reasons why we do not quote encyclopaedic entries in the final bibliography. Can we understand why this happens and fix this too?*
The volume number is not ordered correctly in editions and translations: it must follow the title, not the ed, tr., Conti Rossini, C. and L. Ricci 1964. Il libro della luce del negus Zarʾa Yāʿqob (Maṣḥafa Berhān), eds C. Conti Rossini and L. Ricci, I, Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium, 250, Scriptores Aethiopici, 47 (Louvain: Secrétariat du CorpusSCO, 1964).Conti Rossini, C. and L. Ricci 1964. Il libro della luce del negus Zarʾa Yāʿqob (Maṣḥafa Berhān), I, eds, Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium, 250, Scriptores Aethiopici, 47 (Louvain: Secrétariat du CorpusSCO, 1964).
- The format for newspaper articles does not match out style: Steinman, D. 2017. ‘Ethiopia’s Cruel Con Game’, Forbes, 3 March 2017.
Steinman, D. 2017. ‘Ethiopia’s Cruel Con Game’, Forbes (3 March 2017).
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@abausi @FrancescaPanini @eu-genia have developed the following list of corrections to be made to the styles. This need to be tested, eventually implemented and submitted to the CSL style repository.
Basset, R. 1916. Le synaxaire arabe jacobite (rédaction copte), III: Mois de Toubeh et d’Amschir, ed., tr. R. Basset, Patrologia Orientalis, 11/5 (Paris: Firmin-Didot et Cie, 1916).
Bausi 2002, S. 12
[x] In the style for German, the abbreviation “hrsg.” is written small, while is should be written with capital letter, i.e. “Hrsg.”
[x] In the style for thesis, there is a missing comma: Hummel, S. 2020. Das hagiografische Werk zu Śarṣ́a Ṗeṭros. Werkgenese und Teiledition Doktorarbeit, Universität Hamburg (2020).
[x] In the style for manuscript, there is a missing comma:
Bausi, A. 2019. The Ethiopian Biblical Canon in its earliest literary attestation: An assessment of the evidence Paper presented at the Society of Biblical Literature Annual Meeting 2019, 23–26 November 2019 (San Diego, CA: 2019).
Taddesse Tamrat 2009. Church and State in Ethiopia: 1270–1527, (repr.) (Los Angeles, CA: Tsehai Publishers, 2009).
Beachy, M. 2018. A Brief Grammar of Dizin, (2nd edn) (Mizan Teferi: The Bench Maji Zone–SIL Ethiopia, 2018).
Secondary authors:
Gori, A., A. Regourd, J. R. Brown, and S. Delamarter 2014. A Handlist of the Manuscripts in the Institute of Ethiopian Studies, II: The Arabic Materials of the Ethiopian Islamic Tradition, Ethiopic Manuscripts, Texts, and Studies, 20 (Eugene, OR: Pickwick Publications, 2014).
Assistant editors:
Bausi, A. and E. Sokolinski 2016. 150 Years after Dillmann’s Lexicon: Perspectives and Challenges of Gǝʿǝz Studies, eds A. Bausi and E. Sokolinski, Supplement to Aethiopica, 5 (Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz Verlag, 2016).
An additional problem comes from the fact that sometimes there is a collaboration among editors, no assistance:
EAe. S. Uhlig, ed., Encyclopaedia Aethiopica, I: A–C; II: D–Ha; III: He–N; in cooperation with A. Bausi, ed., IV: O–X; A. Bausi in cooperation with S. Uhlig, ed., V: Y–Z. Supplementa. Addenda et Corrigenda. Maps. Index (Wiesbaden: Harrassowitz Verlag, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2010, 2014).
Do you think there is any solution to this?
[x] We still have the problems with the publication date which we had tried to overcome with the ‘bibliography tool’. Since a few years have gone by, can we look into this gain to see if there is now a better solution available?
[x] One more point is the fact that encyclopaedia entries (which we as a rule do not give in the final bibliography) are not distinguished by the additional letter (2010a etc.), so that more entries by the same author have the same abbreviated form, e.g. Liuzzo 2020, Liuzzo 2020 etc.; in fact, they are not counted, and this generates confusion, among them, and also with other non-encyclopaedic contribution of the same year; it is (also) one of the reasons why we do not quote encyclopaedic entries in the final bibliography. Can we understand why this happens and fix this too?
[x] The volume number is not ordered correctly in editions and translations: it must follow the title, not the ed, tr., Conti Rossini, C. and L. Ricci 1964. Il libro della luce del negus Zarʾa Yāʿqob (Maṣḥafa Berhān), eds C. Conti Rossini and L. Ricci, I, Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium, 250, Scriptores Aethiopici, 47 (Louvain: Secrétariat du CorpusSCO, 1964).
[x] The format for newspaper articles does not match out style: Steinman, D. 2017. ‘Ethiopia’s Cruel Con Game’, Forbes, 3 March 2017.