Deep Storage Unit

[Ldmf]

I think it will us Sensor(MV) and Emitter(MV) instad of Ender Pearl and Eye of Ender

The Factory Machine Block request Aluminium Plate to craft so way not use sensor and emitter

it way cheper too craft than a Quantum Chest V and hast i think the same storge

i think so is a good way

PPP SSS EFE

P = Plastic Sheet S = Sensor (MV) E = Emitter (MV) F = Factory Machine Block

[leagris]

Will look into it. Having a concurrent device that can be picked-up with its entire inventory and same capacity as a quantum chest is an issue. At the time this has been enabled, there where no quantum chests. Now this look overpowered/unbalanced. I think no recipe change can restore a balance given its extra ability to be moved with content at no cost. At least, JABBA better barrels require a dolly and have exponentially costly upgrades. It is something we need addressed definitely. Thank you for your head-up.

[spacebuilder2020]

Perhaps make it require a quantum chest in the center instead of a FMB.

That way it is an upgrade to a quantum chest.

[Ldmf]

Make it endgame stuf

CCC SSS EQE

C = Converyor Module(IV) S = Sensor (IV) E = Emitter (IV) Q = Quantum Chest IV or V

Or instad of emitter Fild Generator

i know now it is realy expensiv but the DSU has no input limet a quantum chest has one

keep in mind it is only a idea

[spacebuilder2020]

Should not be too far end game... Should be late mid game. Also, we should take into account the special properties of the eye of ender. Remember, this is minecraft, not reallife.

[Ldmf]

eye of ender is way to easy to get think (olny my opinion) i think senor and emitter are ok

[spacebuilder2020]

I agree it is easy, but the ingredient should be some product derived from the eye.

[Ldmf]

Emtter and Sensor are use eye of ender and only one

(english is still bad sorry)

[Dyonovan]

If I remember correctly, the following is true:

1) The dsu requires Aluminum plates for the factory block (or whatever its called). This requires an upgraded BF to make which makes it mid-game.

2) Jabba barrels can be upgraded to store a LOT and it is not that expensive to do. There is also AE systems for storage.

As this only deals with storage, I think we will leave it for now. When GT6 comes out, we will be re-doing the pack for balance and will look at it then.

[Ldmf]

it will be fine thx

[Ldmf]

New idea we have now the Assembly Line multiblock way we didn't put the DSU in it still as a upgrade 4 a Quanum Chest? only a new idea

[spacebuilder2020]

Perhaps. However, I would want the recipe to be mostly the same ingredients (Aluminum).

It would be pretty annoying to go to HV or above just to get a DSU.

[Ldmf]

the main problem is the DSU keeps his inventory the QC dos it not A better altenetiv is to move the DSU from aluminum to the next tear HV

"my english is stell not the best

[spacebuilder2020]

Well, if we do that we still need a mass storage system that is available in MV. Barrels are ok to start with, but since we don't have Jabba, you will start running out of room to store stuff.

[spacebuilder2020]

NVR Mind. it looks like we still have Jabba.

I will support a move to HV as long as Jabba or another alternative still exists. But I thought Jabba was getting removed (@leagris)

[Ldmf]

we have jabba storagdraws or waht it is callt AE and tha was all i think

[leagris]

StorageDrawers accept a controller. Connect AppliedEnergistics Storage Bus to Drawer controller and get access to all drawers connected to the controller. StorageDrawers is definitely more advanced than JABBA barrels.

[spacebuilder2020]

Ok. I will have to look into them. But with this in mind, I don't think there is an issue with changing the recipe. However, what tier it should be is still unspecified. Based on its storage capacity it should be a upgrade for the IV Quantum Chest.

However, I would love instead having a keep inventory upgrade for the Quantum Chests and disabling the DSU if we can get one of the GT modders (GT/GT++) to implement one.

[leagris]

If you Nerf DSU you also need to nerf StorageDrawers, and JABBA Barrels. Upgraded drawers can also hold a significant amount of items. Both Barrels and Drawers can be moved with inventory using a Dolly. Quantum loosing inventory on move has always been a handicap in regard to concurrent storage devices. Now, Quantum Tanks have a significant edge against other fluid storages with its very high density. With all this: I consider the current DSU, just enough gated at Aluminum smelting. I could replace Enderpearls with Gregtech Field Emitters, but I hardly find it any good. Nerfing DSU without also nerfing other storages. In the end, these are just drop-in storages, not really affecting player progression into the game.

[spacebuilder2020]

I agree there.

[Ldmf]

German version down below.

So we have StorageDrawers, AE, Jabba, Ironchests and the normal Chest For Cobblestone, Sand and Dirt, we still have extra utilities In EU (Extra Utillities) we also have Filing Cabinet for storing items

Everything is available from the first day I am the opinion (ATTENTION ONLY MY OPINION !!) that one should it seasons I think so that you have Chest from the beginning has just the same Iron Chest Jabba shall be available from lv as one huge quantities can store of a variety stop each StorageDrawers should have MV at the beginning because the Drawer Controller and Ender IO / Logistics Pipes / PracticalLogistics can build a small ME with Autocraftig depending on which mod you want to take AE should be accessible from IV as it is from my point of view very highly complex technology and therefore should not be available from the beginning. In IV you could also pack the DSU would then be available from IV and would upgrade for a QC apply.

In addition, why should I use Practical Logistics if it is 3 times as expensive as an ME system to build? This makes little sense from my point of view.

translation with Googeltranslator.

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Also wir haben StorageDrawers, AE, Jabba, Iron Chests und die normalen Chest für Cobblestone, Sand und Dirt haben wir immer noch Extra Utillities In EU (Extra Utillities) haben wir auch noch Filing Cabinet für die Lagerung von Items

Alles ist ab dem ersten tag Verfügbar Ich bin der Meinung (ACHTUNG NUR MEINE MEINUNG!!) das man es Staffeln sollte Ich denke mir das so das man Chest von Anfang an hat genauso Iron Chest Jabba sollt ab lv vorhanden sein da man riesige mengen lagern kann von einer Sorte halt jeweils StorageDrawers sollte anfang MV haben da durch den Drawer Controller und Ender IO / Logistics Pipes / Practical Logistics ein kleines ME bauen kann mit Autocraftig je nach dem welchen Mod man nehmen möchte AE sollte ab IV erreichbar sein da es aus meiner Sicht echt hoch komplexe Technik ist und somit nicht von Anfang an zur Verfügung stehen sollte. In IV könnte man auch die DSU packen wäre dann ab IV verfügbar und würde Upgrade für eine QC gelten.

Hinzukommt warum sollte ich zb Practical Logistics nutzen wenn es 3 mal so teuer ist wie ein ME System zu bauen? Das macht aus meiner Sicht wenig sinn.

[leagris]

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