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term request for NCBI taxonomy ? #20

Open ANiknejad opened 8 years ago

ANiknejad commented 8 years ago

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25209669

'Our phylogenetic analyses recognize Euharamiyida as the sister group of Multituberculata, and place Allotheria within the Mammalia.'

currently NCBI taxonomy does not cover the phylogeny described in this paper.

None 'Allotheria' None 'Multituberculata' None 'Haramiyida' None 'Euharamiyida' (new clade)

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marcrr commented 8 years ago

Which of these is needed for our annotation? I can ask for new taxa, but I need a justification, since normally NCBI taxonomy covers species with GenBank entries. Also, previous times I asked for changes I had multiple references, not sure how one recent paper will be received.

https://bgeedb.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/new-taxon-dipnotetrapodomorpha-in-ncbi-taxonomy/

ANiknejad commented 8 years ago

ok, it is related to middle ear annotation https://github.com/BgeeDB/anatomical-similarity-annotations/issues/19 so we need 'allotheria' to report multiple middle ear independent evolution in Mammals

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27228358

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27563341

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15705848

marcrr commented 8 years ago

OK. That's the only term we need?

I can easily argue that it's widely accepted: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=allotheria

ANiknejad commented 8 years ago

For our annotation, yes.

For description of Allotheria branch, the figure bellow

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7524/fig_tab/nature13718_F4.html

from paper

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25209669

displays clades not yet in NCBI taxonomy (Thomasia (non-multituberculate allotherian mammals), Multituberculata, Haramiyida, Euharamiyida), but as you said, will depend on links to GenBank entries.

marcrr commented 8 years ago

According to that figure, Allotheria only covers extinct species, no modern descendant. Seems difficult to argue relevance to NCBI under these conditions.

ANiknejad commented 8 years ago

ok, right, let's forget allotheria, I anyway reported NOT in mammals for middle ear thanks to PMID:27228358 then yes in 32525 Theria 9255 Monotremata