Closed meier-rene closed 1 year ago
@sneumann, @uly55e5 I have updated your text above to correct some aspects. In particular, the Schema.org community have no notion of profile, so these have all been changed to type.
However, I think your examples are incorrect. You have embedded the measurementTechnique
property within the PropertyValue
but I think it should be a property applied directly to the dataset according to the Schema.org specification. So something like
{
"@context": "https://schema.org/",
"@type": "Dataset",
"@id": "https://massbank.eu/MassBank/RecordDisplay?id=NA003756",
...
"variableMeasured": {
"@type": "PropertyValue",
"value": 10.422,
"unitText": "minute"
},
"measurementTechnique": {
"@type": "DefinedTerm",
"@id": "http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/CHMO_0001004",
"inDefinedTermSet": {
"@type":"DefinedTermSet",
"@id":"http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/chmo.owl",
"name": "Chemical Methods Ontology"
},
"termCode": "CHMO:0001004",
"name": "liquid chromatography"
}
}
Although I do see that your approach will allow the alignment between a variable and how it was measured.
Thank you for your comment. You have identified my motivation for putting the measurmentTechnique inside of the PropertyValue
correctly. This makes clear that this particular value was measured with this particular method.
Of course its also possible to define the measurementTechnique as property of the Dataset
. The advantage of having the measurementTechnique inside of the variableMeasured property is, you can define several different variableMeasured with its respective measurementTechnique. I can imagine many cases, where a Dataset
would have many different experimental determined values. I don't know how to define this properly in a different way than the one I chose. But both arrangements are legal to my understanding, because variableMeasured can be of Type PropertyValue
which has a property measurmentTechnique.
But this issue is not about the place where to define the measurmentTechnique, but about the Type used to define the measurmentTechnique. We ask for DefinedTerm
as additional Type of measurmentTechnique, which is currently limited to Text
and URL
.
Legend:
Italic properties of a type
code style
a Type
Hi all, I want to ask if there has been any progress on this? Is there anything we can do to get this flying?
I would like to summarize our proposal to make clear what we need/want:
We need to refer to ontology terms as value of the property measurementTechnique. The natural Type for this would be DefinedTerm
. Thats why we ask to add DefinedTerm
along with Text
and URL
as expected values for measurementTechnique.
Are there any objections?
Kind Regards, Rene
related issue at schema.org: https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2734
Another related issue is https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/3250
@meier-rene We have rekindled this discussion at schema.org (where it belongs). Please share your insight on the matter at https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/3250.
Closing this issue as DefinedTerm in now in the range of measurementTechnique see:
Hi, we try to promote the usage of proper metadata on web resources of research data/scientific data. For the annotation of repositories/libraries we found the types
Dataset
andDataCatalog
to be useful. In many domains of scientific data the communities have created controlled vocabulary and/or ontologies to precisely describe the nature of the data. To our understanding, the right type to refer to a controlled vocabulary term would be theDefinedTerm
type. In theDataset
type and in thePropertyValue
type there is a propertymeasurementTechnique
that has the expected typesText
orURL
. We ask to also allow the typeDefinedTerm
as a valid expected type for measurementTechnique property. This would allow us to precisely refer to the usedmeasurementTechnique
if it is included in one of our ontologies.An example: Let us consider I want to annotate a
Dataset
which includes a measurement with a liquid chromatography. At the moment I could do the following at the moment:With
measurementTechnique
using theDefinedTerm
type, it would be totally clear that we refer to an ontology and it could look like this:This would identify the
measurmentTechnique
without any ambiguity.Please could the
measurementTechnique
property be extended to includeDefinedTerm
as an expected type.Kind Regards, Rene
@sneumann, @uly55e5