Open AnthonyFJGarner opened 1 week ago
cantcodeatall thinks funding fees can be wrapped into the P&L at the close of the trade and need not be accounted for on a daily basis as income https://github.com/BittyTax/BittyTax/issues/22#issuecomment-2172967366
Note the item "Total Funding Fees" Funding fees accrue in small amounts each day. While it is far more convenient to account for it all in one go at the end of the trade, will this suffice for the ghastly HMRC?
Yes, it will.
From the horse's mouth here:
[https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/capital-gains-manual/cg56100]
"All debits and credits to the account, including commission and sums equivalent to interest and dividends, are brought
within the computation of the net chargeable gain or allowable loss when the contract is closed out."
Here is a sample from my Kucoin file "futures orders realised PNL"
Note that Kucoin does NOT offer on its website the ability to download a list of the daily Funding Fee payments. Neither of the two futures files produced by the download facility on the Kucoin website provide this information.
`<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
UID | Account Type | Symbol | Close Type | Realized PNL | Total Realized PNL | Total Funding Fees | Total Trading Fees | Position Opening Time(UTC+08:00) | Position Closing Time(UTC+08:00) -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- | -- ***** | mainAccount | XBTMM23 | CLOSE_LONG | -2.7875E-06 | 0.000002377 | 0 | 4.105E-07 | 29/04/2023 00:01 | 04/05/2023 23:14 ***** | mainAccount | XBTUSDM | CLOSE_SHORT | 2.8261E-06 | -0.000002559 | 0.00000068 | 4.129E-07 | 29/04/2023 00:02 | 04/05/2023 23:14
# Futures Orders_Realized PNL (Bundle) DataParser( ParserType.EXCHANGE, "KuCoin Bundle Futures Orders Realized PNL", [ "UID", "Account Type", "Symbol", "Close Type", "Realized PNL", "Total Realized PNL", "Total Funding Fees", "Total Trading Fees", lambda c: re.match(r"(^Position Opening Time\((UTC[-+]\d{2}:\d{2})\))", c), lambda c: re.match(r"(^Position Closing Time\((UTC[-+]\d{2}:\d{2})\))", c), ], worksheet_name="Kucoin F", all_handler=parse_kucoin_futures,
Note the item "Total Funding Fees" Funding fees accrue in small amounts each day. While it is far more convenient to account for it all in one go at the end of the trade, will this suffice for the ghastly HMRC?
I sent you an email with a Deribit transaction log and I will post the details below so that others can see. You will note that Deribit gives each day's funding payment separately in the log.
Originally posted by @AnthonyFJGarner in https://github.com/BittyTax/BittyTax/issues/22#issuecomment-2172955141