BlackHolePerturbationToolkit / Teukolsky

A Mathematica package for computing solutions to the Teukolsky equation.
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Amplitude for negative frequency #49

Open keiichirokubota opened 11 months ago

keiichirokubota commented 11 months ago

I think calculations for negative frequency seem to fail.

For example, a command TeukolskyRadial[-2, 2, 2, 0, 1`30][“In"]["Amplitudes”] returns following results

<|"Incidence" -> -10.47175832 + 35.36017937 I, "Transmission" -> 1.0000000000 + 0.*10^-11 I, "Reflection" -> -0.001473656450 + 0.000629969474 I|>.

Replacing the frequency with a negative value, a command TeukolskyRadial[-2, 2, -2, 0, -1`30][“In"]["Amplitudes”] returns following results

<|"Incidence" -> -10.47175832 - 35.3601794 I, "Transmission" -> 1.000000000 + 0.10^-10 I, "Reflection" -> -5.9942298410^6 - 656978.09 I|>

Using the symmetry of the radial Teukolsky equation under complex conjugate, we find the following relation,

{}_sR_{lm\omega}={}_sR_{l(-m)(-\omega)}^*. 

The above results of reflection amplitude do not seem to satisfy this relation.

barrywardell commented 11 months ago

You're right, this seems to be incorrect currently. The evaluation of the solutions at a given radius still works as expected for negative frequencies and the problem does not affect the "up" solutions. As far as I can see, it is only the "in" reflection amplitude that is incorrect. This is computed using Eq. (169) of Sasaki and Tagoshi. I haven't yet worked out what the problem is, but it must be in the bit in parenthesis involving $K_\nu$ as the rest also appears in the "up" transmission amplitude (Eq. (170)). @znasipak do you have any suggestions?

There is also raises the issue of whether we should even allow negative frequencies. Strictly speaking the "in" solutions are only defined for $\omega > 0$ (and "up" for $k>0$), and for negative frequencies we use the relations to positive frequency solutions. I think we probably should support negative frequencies with this understanding.

keiichirokubota commented 11 months ago

Thank you for your reply.

There is also raises the issue of whether we should even allow negative frequencies. Strictly speaking the "in" solutions are only defined for ω>0 (and "up" for k>0), and for negative frequencies we use the relations to positive frequency solutions. I think we probably should support negative frequencies with this understanding.

I think so. As mentioned in the following sentence of Eq (113) of Sasaki and Tagoshi, one can easily obtain a radial function for negative frequencies from that for positive frequencies. There is no need to calculate for negative frequencies.