TeetoKaziim
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6 years ago So did some followup testing, adding a "Flags = HARD" to my theme and kicking the DLDungeonsJBG.cfg difficulty up to "5: nightmare". I ran into some of the higher spawners, (even saw a witch, which is currently in the "boss" slot), but, still saw a similar lack of "gear" and "heal" beyond tier 4.
A somewhat tangential question, but I'm curious if I'm wrong about these assumptions:
- It seems like the global difficulty from the main config file increases the likelyhood of a higher-level monster spawner, but doesn't increase the density of spawners?
- The "flags = HARD" setting affects the loot, not the spawners, to represent cases like, how the monsters in the nether dungeon are harder than their overworld counterparts, and warrant better rewards?
- The nearby spawners have something to do with the quality of loot in a chest?
BlackJar72
Fabboz
Summary of Issue
Overview: Playtesting my pack I'm working on, I noticed as I was clearing out dungeons that I was getting an abundance of some kinds of loot, and seeing almost none of other kinds. As the sample size grew, so did my suspicions, and I became convinced that certain loot types were either not generating, or generating at what can only be described as a wildly low rate. So I decided to do some science.
Doing Of Science I whipped up a minecraft 1.12.2 instance with the following mods:
DoomlikeDungeons-1.10.1-MC1.12.2.jar Draconic-Evolution-1.12-2.3.5.269-universal.jar (Included solely for its item magnet for this test) BrandonsCore-1.12-2.3.4.134-universal.jar CodeChickenLib-1.12-3.1.3.313-universal.jar RedstoneFlux-1.12-2.0.1.2-universal.jar (These 3 are dependencies for draconic evolution, geez. RedstoneFlux is the only one of these that also appears in my "actual" pack I'm working on.) Hwyla-1.8.23-B38_1.12.jar jei_1.12.2-4.8.5.136.jar (Make testing more convenient) forge-1.12.2-14.23.1.2562.jar (I might be behind on forge versions, I forgot to check before testing, so I'm sharing this if it ends up being relevant.)
My Relevant Configuration Files:
DLDungeons.JBG.cfg: https://pastebin.com/raw/hVZTuGPK (I set easy-find on, though I don't know why)
chests.cfg: https://pastebin.com/raw/H86K8NSG (Only 1 item in each tier of each category, with a stack size range of 1 to 1. Basically, the idea being I wanted each "item that ended up in my inventory" to represent "1 loot roll", so that my 5 stacks of poison potatoes could be directly compared with my 3 stacks of spider eyes. Also, the specific items are edited so that it's all things that stack up to 64)
common.cfg (In my Themes folder, only theme there): https://pastebin.com/raw/bfjVb9gC (Notable: I set the only allowed dungeon size to huge, in case something about loot generation was tied to getting a big dungeon, and, to make the sample size larger with less work. Also notable: There is at least one mob in each spawner tier category, though, anecdotally, I don't think I saw any spawners from any of: bruteMobs, eliteMobs, or bossMobs, though I was not rigourous, just kinda keeping my eyes open as I flew around slapping chests.)
Then, I loaded up a Creative Mode, Superflat World, with structures enabled, and Peaceful difficulty on, so that mobs would stay out of the way and not die and drop items, polluting my data. Grabbed a Draconic item magnet from JEI, then, flew around, using dldspawn to generate 4 (huge sized!) dungeons, and flew around in creative breaking the chests, and vacuuming up the loot. After breaking what I later realized is a large number of chests, but a number I should have been counting (sorry), I ended up with the following loot distribution:
My Results: https://i.imgur.com/TEASFh7.png A text breakdown of my results because what kind of loser submits data in .png form:
From the "gear" loot category:
From the "heal" loot category:
From the "loot" loot category:
From (?????) loot category:
Total: 1312 loot rolls collected.
My own conclusions/suspicions:
Maybe the higher tier loot is mean to be that rare, in the gear and heal categories, but maybe the numbers are tuned a bit smaller than intended, so I felt like it was worth sharing that data. Especially with how wide a swath of the upper tiers just don't show up at all, and with the kind of loot that seems to occupy those tiers in the default chests.cfg file, I felt like maybe you might not have intended them to be quite THAT rare.
The real weirdo anomaly, which also showed up in my testing of my actual modpack with real loot pools, is the behaviour of the "loot" category, and this is what tipped me off that something was amiss. I'm almost certain you don't mean for ONLY tier 7 items to spawn.
Denouement Thank you for your time, I know this is a fairly large pile of text to go through, and I don't really mean to heap work onto your plate unless you have actual enthusiasm for it. I know I've been a mosquito in your ear for the past couple weeks, so I just wanna say thank you very much, and that I hope you know it's my own enthusiasm and enjoyment of this mod that drives me. I've had a lot of fun with it.