Statement of values

[nottrobin]

This statement would presumably impact on which charities could be donated to through our service.

This is related to #2 because under oatman's model the political directions would be decided by the trustees. If we were to go with a more democratic model we would need a statement to keep the whole community on track.

The theory here is that online community values can perpetuate even with complete democracy - only people with similar values will be attracted, and the community develops an identity around the values.

For that theory to work we need a statement of what these values are. This should presumably be as vague as possible (to allow for evolution) while satisfying everyone's most important principles.

Some suggestions:

• openness & transparency
• secularity & humanism
• egalitatianism
• democracy
• human rights

[nottrobin]

I think human rights is an interesting one, because different people have different ideas of what constitutes human rights - for example "western" cultures tend to associate freedoms, especially freedom of expression, with human rights more than "eastern" cultures.

If we have something around human rights it should be more clearly defined.

[0atman]

I propose we take inspiration from http://conscientiousmechanist.com/

[nottrobin]

Some discussion on this topic has taken place in ticket #2. I've closed that issue - discussion on values should now happen here. I'm now going to try to duplicate relevant points here.

[nottrobin]

oatman mentioned this as a place to draw inspiration from: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ivlfp9zzq9pevoa/ConscientiousMechanist.pdf

[nottrobin]

Reposting another oatman comment:

Just a note from chat:

11:13:44      @nottrobin | personally my principles are focused on global equality, global thinking            │
                         | (anti-nationalist), sustainability (zero-growth), utilitarian state, reabilitation  │
                         | over punishment                                                                     │
11:13:53      @nottrobin | just thought I'd get that down                                                      │
11:14:53      @nottrobin | I suppose there might be room for nonviolence, anti-poverty, environmental          │
                         | responsibility and secularity of state in there too                                 │
11:16:24         @oatman | agreed                                                                              │

[nottrobin]

There's a document for drafting ideas for the charter: https://docs.google.com/a/robinwinslow.co.uk/document/d/1A3FUu3dXUbkCi89Y4adQbPyBvQyD6LheGanifIFHtxA

[nottrobin]

Chaps does anyone object to me publicly linking to the document? Say in a blog post?

[deadlight]

It's a little too early for me to feel comfortable just yet

On 16 April 2013 16:42, Robin Winslow notifications@github.com wrote:

Chaps does anyone object to me publicly linking to the document? Say in a blog post?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/blackgate-foundation/charter/issues/3#issuecomment-16452289 .

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[0atman]

It'll be publicly linkable when we have our draft in the repository.

Tris

On 16 April 2013 16:44, Karl Williams notifications@github.com wrote:

It's a little too early for me to feel comfortable just yet

On 16 April 2013 16:42, Robin Winslow notifications@github.com wrote:

Chaps does anyone object to me publicly linking to the document? Say in a blog post?

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub< https://github.com/blackgate-foundation/charter/issues/3#issuecomment-16452289>

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[nottrobin]

Coolbeans. I'll wait until then.