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Sand Talk: January 19th (changed to Feb 2) #99

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pat commented 3 years ago

Continuing on with Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta (Readings, Bookshop, Amazon)

Aiming to read:

Lines in the Sand MC: @elle Notes: @pat

See you 12 pm Tuesday, January 19th @ https://whereby.com/blackmill

Ping gday@blackmill.co if you want a calendar invite and access to the low-volume Slack beforehand.

elle commented 3 years ago

Chapter 5: Lines in the Sand

But when I do that, the future I’m seeing and the future I’m selling are two different things.

locals in each era believed the system to be stable and planned their future around it

the next generation of infrastructure—towers with broadband signals—offered hope of new lands, cyberspaces to colonize.

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In their digital ghettos there were endless new worlds and resources to discover, and this could last forever, without limits. Or at least until the rare earth metals required to power their devices ran out.

Look beyond the things and focus on the connections between them, he says. Then look beyond the connections and see the patterns they make.

How?

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Flocking Rules

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It is a risky endeavor in a culture that attaches negative meanings to words like “chaos” and “anarchy,” equating them with disorder and ruin. But chaos in reality has a structure that produces innovation, and “anarchy” simply means “no boss.” Could it be possible to have structure without bosses?

Controlled chaos

Indigenous models of governance are based on respect for social, ecological, and knowledge systems and all their components or members. Complex kinship structures reflect the dynamic design of natural systems through totemic relationships with plants and animals.

About learning about other cultures:

First, check your ego and your motives. Why are you doing this? Second, you don’t need to be an expert to understand the knowledge processes of people from other cultures and enter into dialogues with them. More important, making yourself an expert in another culture is not always appreciated by the members of that culture.

Understand your own culture first!

Understanding your own culture and the way it interacts with others, particularly the power dynamics of it, is far more appreciated.

This kind of cultural humility is a useful exercise in understanding your role as an agent of sustainability in a complex system. It is difficult to relinquish the illusions of power and delusions of exceptionalism that come with privilege. But it is strangely liberating to realize your true status as a single node in a cooperative network.

And again, sustainable system needs independent and autonomous parts of the interdependent whole

Sustainability agents:

There is a balance between self-definition and group identity. These two are not contradictory but entwined, and there are names for all of the roles you occupy as an agent of complexity in Aboriginal society.

There are so many adolescent cultures in the world right now, reaching for the stars without really knowing what they are.
Adolescent cultures always ask the same three questions. Why are we here? How should we live? What will happen when we die? The first one I’ve covered already with the role of humans as a custodial species. The second one I’ve covered above, with the four protocols for agents in a complex dynamic system. The third one us-two will look at next.

pat commented 3 years ago

Extending on Elle's notes above, here's some of what we covered (hopefully doing justice to Elle's and Richard's contributions):