Query pacing higher than expected from playlist segment duration

[gmarzot]

I am observing qps rates approximately 10x higher than expected. for instance this playlist exhibits higher qps than expected compared to segment duration.

https://bitdash-a.akamaihd.net/content/sintel/hls/playlist.m3u8

this is VOD so not sure what pacing is designed or expected. but it would be useful to pace the GETs according to segment duration

Hopefully not missing something obvious

[gmarzot]

also tested with live DASH. the pacing of video and audio segment GET's appears correct based on appearance in manifest but the manifest GET rate is excessive. in many cases (AzuremediaPlayer) a single manifest GET is done and all subsequent audio/video GET URLs are calculated from segment duration. even without that intelligence i would think the manifest GET rate should not be higher than the segment GET rate

[gmarzot]

here is a PR for the DASH VOD and Live pacing: https://github.com/Blazemeter/HLSPlugin/pull/21

[diego-ferrand]

Hey @gmarzot , we just launched a pre-release which has some modifications to the time/pacing of the requests. It doesn't have all changes proposed in your PR, so please check it out and let us know if it works for you.

If you see the pacing issue is still present, we will apply the solution proposed in your PR.

[gmarzot]

cool. I will definitely try it out

-G

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Hey @gmarzot https://github.com/gmarzot , we just launched a pre-release which has some modifications to the time/pacing of the requests. It doesn't have all changes proposed in your PR, so please check it out and let us know if it works for you.

If you see the pacing issue is still present, we will apply the solution proposed in your PR.

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[gmarzot]

Hi Diego,

We did try it out. I am seeing some of the same problems. VOD sources seem to generate too many manifest gets and the pacing is not governed by segment duration.

The manifest gets for DASH should not be more frequent that minUpdate setting.. and actually a single manifest get can be used and each subsequent segment get can be calculated from the duration of the p[revious segment (this is more like AMP and other DASH players) ...

HLS live seems to be paced ok .. i guess since the new segments don't show up in the manifest until they exist .

I am not sure how relevant my previous patch is w/ current code but the concepts above would make the plugin more like a real; player load for

HLS (live and VOD) and DASH (live and VOD)

Thanks and let us know if you would like any more info.

We would be happy to set up a joint test session if you think you have these problems solved.

best regards

Giovanni Marzot

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 2:52 PM Giovanni Marzot @.***> wrote:

cool. I will definitely try it out

-G

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 2:41 PM Diego Ferrand @.***> wrote:

Hey @gmarzot https://github.com/gmarzot , we just launched a pre-release which has some modifications to the time/pacing of the requests. It doesn't have all changes proposed in your PR, so please check it out and let us know if it works for you.

If you see the pacing issue is still present, we will apply the solution proposed in your PR.

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[RicardoPoleo]

Hello @gmarzot,

Thanks for taking the time to test the changes, we really appreciate it.

Regarding the changes you sent in the PR, we migrated those in the new code and will be public in the next release (giving you credits ofc 😉).

We wanted to see how the recent changes performed first (if we had any regressions and how the community reacted to them). Once we release the fix, we will hope you give them a try (if those still don't work, we would love to have a test session to see how it behaves and what needs to be fixed to make it more accurate/real).

Once again, thank you very much for your time and your help 🚀

Best Regards